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Old 09-17-2002, 10:31 PM
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Oh, good. I'm so relieved to hear that.
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Old 09-18-2002, 10:49 PM
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Let me ask this of anyone. I ask this not to pirate anything but get peoples opinion. Would it be piracy for someone here to distribute the old version, the same version the creators freely distributed as a demo, the one that works. I know it would be the older version. If that would even have the appearance of impropriety then I would be against it. But if the working demo was truely a freely distributed demo then perhaps it is kosher.

Ill let someone else decide how they feel about that.

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Old 09-19-2002, 12:53 PM
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That's an interesting question. It seems as though it would not be piracy or illegal (strictly my guess), but if someone who has the working version is willing to check their documentation, it might provide something more substantial to go on. I'll be checking back on this thread.

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Old 09-19-2002, 01:49 PM
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That was a good idea Ed. I checked and here's what it says. Now I leave it up to you all to interpret it correctly. If I read it correctly, it stipulates that it can't be destributed for commercial distribution but I'm not aware that it states you can't share it for personal use.
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End User Software License

EFT Beta v1.0 Copyright (c) 1994-1998 DVP technologies Ltd.
All rights reserved.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED TO LICENSEE "AS IS". ALL EXPRESS
OR IMPLIED CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS, AND WARRANTIES,
INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY,
SATISFACTORY QUALITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR
NON-INFRINGEMENT, ARE DISCLAIMED, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT THAT
SUCH DISCLAIMERS ARE HELD TO BE LEGALLY INVALID.

THIS BETA VERSION SOFTWARE IS NOT FAULT TOLERANT AND SHOULD NOT BE USED IN
ANY ENVIRONMENT WHICH REQUIRES THIS.

TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY APPLICABLE LAW, DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD
AGGREGATE LIABILITY TO LICENSEE OR TO ANY THIRD PARTY FOR
CLAIMS RELATING TO THIS AGREEMENT, WHETHER FOR BREACH OR
IN TORT, WILL BE LIMITED TO THE FEES PAID BY LICENSEE FOR
SOFTWARE WHICH IS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CLAIMS. IN NO
EVENT WILL DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT,
PUNITIVE, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE IN CONNECTION WITH OR
ARISING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT (INCLUDING LOSS OF BUSINESS,
REVENUE, PROFITS, USE, DATA OR OTHER ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE),
HOWEVER IT ARISES, WHETHER FOR BREACH OR IN TORT, EVEN IF
DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGE. LIABILITY FOR DAMAGES WILL BE LIMITED AND EXCLUDED,
EVEN IF ANY EXCLUSIVE REMEDY PROVIDED FOR IN THIS AGREEMENT
FAILS OF ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE.

The beta program executables, readme file and related text
files may be used for evaluation purposes only.

The program executables, help file and related text
files may not be distributed as part of any commercial
packages without the express permission of DVP
TECHNOLOGIES LTD.

You may not alter this software in any way, including changing or removing
any messages or windows.

You may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce
this software to a human perceivable form. You may not modify, rent or
resell for profit this software, or create derivative works based upon
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Old 09-19-2002, 03:36 PM
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It sounds to me as if my suspicion was right. The demo was "as is" for non commercial private evaluation. In fact the company required no other info as far as I can find out. It seems to me that those demos can be distributed as free as water as long as the licensing agreement is met. A million people could have downloaded those demos freely so there can certainly be no problem with redistributing the downloads. If anyone can see a problem with this or is offended by line or considers this to transgress any pirating rules then speak now, please. Because my next idea will be to ask for someone to help me out and make me a copy of this freely distributed demo.

I dont want to get any grief that I am not being completely open about this or am not asking for a concensus of opinion. I state openly again that I would not suggest this if I believed this was piracy.

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Old 09-19-2002, 04:30 PM
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I agree with you Tex. I have the older version and I can't find anything forbidding the sharing of the demo. The site describes that the full retail version has only been distributed commercially in the business world for developers and producers and the last editing occured over 2 years ago.
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Old 09-21-2002, 12:14 PM
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Is there anyone who would help me by forwarding a copy of the freely distributed fully functional demo version of the program. I only want the one that was distributed by the manufacturer that came fully functional. I do not want one that has been made fully functional by any artificial means. Only the one that came that way from the company.

If so please let me know.

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Old 09-21-2002, 12:21 PM
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Texan,
Just curous, how would anyone contact you? You have no option for e-mail or Private messages. There is no way for anyone to contact you. You might want to enable those on your personal profile. What ever you do, I would not recommend you publicizing your e-mail address in the forum.
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Old 09-21-2002, 03:51 PM
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Why is there a problem putting the email address on the forum? Do people abuse it or something?

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Old 09-21-2002, 06:14 PM
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No there's no problem generally it's just that it becomes public knowledge. You leave yourself open to alot of spam. By allowing Private Messaging or e-mail through the site you can be contacted without revealing your address to unsavory elements. It's your choice but I figured since you chose not to allow Private messages or e-mail you wanted to remain private.
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