eft filter from dvp technology

[TheTexan]

I have downloaded the eft filters and they seem to be good however since they are demos they cant be applied. The apply buttons are disabled. What is the secret to registering the product to make them fully functional?

Tex

[Doug Nelson]

The secret is to pay the registration fee to the author.

We have zero tolerance for piracy here.

[DannyRaphael]

What Tex didn't include in his post is that although a download is available, the site is essentially "dead." No one responds to e-mails regarding support, how to purchase, etc. Looks like this company is (literally) somewhere in the Middle East = there may no longer be anyone monitoring the site or e-mails. I'm thinkin' he was looking for a clue from anyone on how to get a response from someone there in order to make a legit purchase.

[DJ Dubovsky]

I think I may be able to help you. I downloaded mine last year so I assumed it was the same one they still have available.

I checked my version of it and noticed the apply button just under the view window of the filter was disabled also but I never used that. If you look at the bottom of your EFT filter box you should see OK and cancel. Just hit OK and it should work fine. Also, if you look at the bottom of your filters list in the EFT dialog box you will see ADD MORE FILTERS. Have you tried clicking on that? It opens up a whole new section with more filter options like fine grain, or moire, jpg pattern, smooth grain and more. You can choose as many as you want and adjust each of the adjustment sliders for unlimited fine tuning.

Let me know if that solves your problem. I would hate to think I've been recommending this and no one can get it to work anymore.
DJ

[TheTexan]

I have tried using it and as long as I dont change any of the sliders it will let me apply the filter. As soon as I change any setting the OK and Apply buttons gray out.

Tex

[DJ Dubovsky]

Hmmmm, that's interesting. I really thought I solved your problem. I seem to be able to change sliders with no problem. I really don't think the downloads changed since I downloaded mine last year. Which one did you download? I downloaded the FE. You might try downloading and reinstalling it again. Maybe something went wrong in the download part. Are you working with PC or Mac? Maybe that has something to do with it. I use PC. At anyrate, that's about all I can come up with at this time.
DJ

[gland]

I have the same problem TheTexan has. DJ I'll check to see which one I've downloaded. Thanks.

[Doug Nelson]

I just got this email from DVP:

"Dear Sir/Mme

Thank you for your interest in our image processing plug - in product - Eye fidelity tools (EFT).

The EFT product has not yet been launched.

Currently we are planing to distribute the product via bundling with third party scanner/ digital camera products.

Please stay tuned for more information on the product, which will be released in due course.

Thanks again

Regards

Avivit raz
Marketing Leader"

[DJ Dubovsky]

That's interesting. I guess we can safely assume they did change the downloads to be demos instead of the original Beta version I got last year. I don't know what to say in light of Doug's response from them. Sorry guys for steering you to the site for nothing. It's a shame because they really do have an interesting product.
DJ

[LQQKER]

Ummmmm . . . ok DJ . . .you're forgiven

[DJ Dubovsky]

Oh, good. I'm so relieved to hear that.
DJ

[TheTexan]

Let me ask this of anyone. I ask this not to pirate anything but get peoples opinion. Would it be piracy for someone here to distribute the old version, the same version the creators freely distributed as a demo, the one that works. I know it would be the older version. If that would even have the appearance of impropriety then I would be against it. But if the working demo was truely a freely distributed demo then perhaps it is kosher.

Ill let someone else decide how they feel about that.

Tex

[Ed_L]

That's an interesting question. It seems as though it would not be piracy or illegal (strictly my guess), but if someone who has the working version is willing to check their documentation, it might provide something more substantial to go on. I'll be checking back on this thread.

Ed

[DJ Dubovsky]

That was a good idea Ed. I checked and here's what it says. Now I leave it up to you all to interpret it correctly. If I read it correctly, it stipulates that it can't be destributed for commercial distribution but I'm not aware that it states you can't share it for personal use.
DJ



End User Software License

EFT Beta v1.0 Copyright (c) 1994-1998 DVP technologies Ltd.
All rights reserved.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED TO LICENSEE "AS IS". ALL EXPRESS
OR IMPLIED CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS, AND WARRANTIES,
INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY,
SATISFACTORY QUALITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR
NON-INFRINGEMENT, ARE DISCLAIMED, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT THAT
SUCH DISCLAIMERS ARE HELD TO BE LEGALLY INVALID.

THIS BETA VERSION SOFTWARE IS NOT FAULT TOLERANT AND SHOULD NOT BE USED IN
ANY ENVIRONMENT WHICH REQUIRES THIS.

TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY APPLICABLE LAW, DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD
AGGREGATE LIABILITY TO LICENSEE OR TO ANY THIRD PARTY FOR
CLAIMS RELATING TO THIS AGREEMENT, WHETHER FOR BREACH OR
IN TORT, WILL BE LIMITED TO THE FEES PAID BY LICENSEE FOR
SOFTWARE WHICH IS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CLAIMS. IN NO
EVENT WILL DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT,
PUNITIVE, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE IN CONNECTION WITH OR
ARISING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT (INCLUDING LOSS OF BUSINESS,
REVENUE, PROFITS, USE, DATA OR OTHER ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE),
HOWEVER IT ARISES, WHETHER FOR BREACH OR IN TORT, EVEN IF
DVP TECHNOLOGIES LTD HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGE. LIABILITY FOR DAMAGES WILL BE LIMITED AND EXCLUDED,
EVEN IF ANY EXCLUSIVE REMEDY PROVIDED FOR IN THIS AGREEMENT
FAILS OF ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE.

The beta program executables, readme file and related text
files may be used for evaluation purposes only.

The program executables, help file and related text
files may not be distributed as part of any commercial
packages without the express permission of DVP
TECHNOLOGIES LTD.

You may not alter this software in any way, including changing or removing
any messages or windows.

You may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce
this software to a human perceivable form. You may not modify, rent or
resell for profit this software, or create derivative works based upon
this software.

[TheTexan]

It sounds to me as if my suspicion was right. The demo was "as is" for non commercial private evaluation. In fact the company required no other info as far as I can find out. It seems to me that those demos can be distributed as free as water as long as the licensing agreement is met. A million people could have downloaded those demos freely so there can certainly be no problem with redistributing the downloads. If anyone can see a problem with this or is offended by line or considers this to transgress any pirating rules then speak now, please. Because my next idea will be to ask for someone to help me out and make me a copy of this freely distributed demo.

I dont want to get any grief that I am not being completely open about this or am not asking for a concensus of opinion. I state openly again that I would not suggest this if I believed this was piracy.

Tex

[dcarr]

I agree with you Tex. I have the older version and I can't find anything forbidding the sharing of the demo. The site describes that the full retail version has only been distributed commercially in the business world for developers and producers and the last editing occured over 2 years ago.
Debbie

[TheTexan]

Is there anyone who would help me by forwarding a copy of the freely distributed fully functional demo version of the program. I only want the one that was distributed by the manufacturer that came fully functional. I do not want one that has been made fully functional by any artificial means. Only the one that came that way from the company.

If so please let me know.

Tex

[DJ Dubovsky]

Texan,
Just curous, how would anyone contact you? You have no option for e-mail or Private messages. There is no way for anyone to contact you. You might want to enable those on your personal profile. What ever you do, I would not recommend you publicizing your e-mail address in the forum.
DJ

[TheTexan]

Why is there a problem putting the email address on the forum? Do people abuse it or something?

Tex

[DJ Dubovsky]

No there's no problem generally it's just that it becomes public knowledge. You leave yourself open to alot of spam. By allowing Private Messaging or e-mail through the site you can be contacted without revealing your address to unsavory elements. It's your choice but I figured since you chose not to allow Private messages or e-mail you wanted to remain private.
DJ

[LQQKER]

Hey . . . other than "Mr. Tex" . . .there are others that would like a version of this program that works. Damn, if you have a version that is older (and works), there can be NO reason why you could not distribute it. What's the difference as to "where" it comes from, as long as it makes it to the masses. Afterall . . . wasn't that the authors intention???

So with this in mind, hand over the file DJ.

[DJ Dubovsky]

Just contact me.
DJ