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Old 12-08-2002, 04:26 PM
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Glad that worked Kevin! From my experience, you most likely did NOT transfer the problem to the new location, but you may have a couple problems here and there. Not like the old location where it crashed every time however.

I have to admit I'm disheartened to hear of this happening in WXP Pro. My problems like this were in W2K and I upgraded hoping that I'd get rid of them. Unfortunately, I never figured out exactly what caused the problems. It always seemed to happen after along day of working in PS7 with my scanner and/or printer (and Graphire tablet of course.) The last time it happened, it appeared to trash the partition info of my main drive, i.e. I couldn't install Windows over itself b/c the boot CD didn't recognize the C: partition. I could boot Windows and it would recognize it just fine though. I sure hope I don't run into that situation again. I didn't lose any data - just lots and lots of time trying to figure out what the heck was going on!

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Old 12-08-2002, 06:31 PM
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Unfortunately Jeanie, what we are dealing with in Win XP is Win NT version 6. Microsoft has tried to convince everyone that NTFS is a better file system. I have found the oposite to be true. Most of the users I support at work are running Win NT 4.0. For a long time we ran NT on a FAT partition so we could maintain compatibility with some of our legacy systems. About 6 months ago we were forced to move to NTFS and service pack 6. Now we fight Windows file corruptions all the time which usually require reloads. We never had these problems under the FAT partitions. These things are not supposed to happen with NTFS, at least according to Microsoft. We are rolling out XP this month, I don't look forward to dealing with it.

ugot2bkdng, I have learned to remove the tablet when I am not using it in Photoshop. It really causes problems with my Microsoft 4 button mouse, which I can't surf without. Guess I am spoiled.
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Old 12-08-2002, 07:42 PM
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Getting rid of those folders didn't help at all. Guess I will limp along until I do the hardware upgrades.
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Old 12-08-2002, 07:49 PM
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Hey Kevin,

that stinks about losing you're downloads folder. could you have possibly been pressing down the shift key when you accidentally deleted the folder? if so, that deletes the files/folders without sending them to the recycle bin first, which may have been what happened. I'm not a fan of NTFS either. when I got my computer, WinXP was loaded on an NTFS partition, and I had all kinds of problems which may have been related. when I installed Linux, I did a reformat and reinstall of windows on FAT32 partitions, since Linux can't write to NTFS ones. When I put in a second 40 Gig drive, I formatted those partitions with FAT 32 also, and since then I haven't had any of the problems I had when I was using NTFS and it's been very reliable.

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Old 12-08-2002, 08:52 PM
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Hi David. I didn't completely lose the files. I found the directories down under the My Music folder. I was bitten by the drag & drop feature. Just didn't know where they were because I couldn't search for them. The search I ran as administrator didn't crash until after it found them, I saw them just in time. What I have now is a damaged file system that scandisk doesn't see any problems with. There aren't any other symptoms except that I can't search using the word "download". All I have lost is the time I spent trying to solve the problem.

I'm going to invest in a copy of Partition Magic and Norton System Works to see if I can prevent this from happening again. If I can help it my next load of XP will not be using NTFS. But I don't know what my options will be with my new 80 Gig drives.

I wish Linux was a little more mature. I have Mandrake 8.0 running on an old Pentium 200 Compaq Deskpro. I don't have enough power to use it very much, it is mostly just my WAN router connection to my cable modem. KDE boggs it down fairly well. There are just too many Windows applications that I can't live without.
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Old 12-08-2002, 09:16 PM
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good to hear you didn't completely lose them at least!
With your 80 GB drives, using FAT32 should be fine if you partition them. I can't remember right now what the maximum partition size FAT32 supports is.
I know what you mean about linux, if the Windows emulation was much better, if I could get 32 bit color, and graphics acceleration, and a couple other things I couldn't live without, then I'd switch right over, but Linux still has a way to go unfortunately. KDE is quite a hog as Linux GUIs go actually, have you tried any others like Windowmaker? one of those might work better on an older machine like that.

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Old 12-08-2002, 09:47 PM
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No I haven't tried Windowmaker that sounds interesting. I have only tried KDE and Gnome. I will say this their interfaces keep getting easier to configure. The first version I tried was Red Hat 6.0. Setting up the router and Samba was a real trip. The Mandrake 8.0 was all menu driven and I hear the latest versions are even easier. If they keep it up they may be a contender yet. I know that IBM and HP are putting a lot of money into Linux development. I'll bet my Athlon XP 2100 with a gig of ram would fly in Linux.
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:08 PM
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Note - this thread is split off from this thread in the Hardware forum...hence the rather strange initial post


Is there anything in the works to replace both FAT32 and NTFS?
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:15 PM
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Yeah, the interface is where the biggest improvements are happening right now. I started out using SuSE 7.2 and from there I've tried a couple versions of mandrake and also Red Hat. Mandrake has the reputation of being easiest to use and configure, and they deserve it, they've done a lot of hard work on it. Right now I've got Mandrake 9.0 loaded, and it's very easy to use, I even managed to get my DSL connected. I haven't done any networking in Linux yet, but I hope Samba's getting easier to configure, since I'll be setting up a network with a broadband router to my computer (winXP, my dad's new computer (Win98), and his old one to use as a server (I'll be loading Mandrake on it).
Linux is pretty darn fast even with my Celeron 950 Mhz (512 megs SD ram)

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Old 12-08-2002, 10:29 PM
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Is there anything in the works to replace both FAT32 and NTFS? [/B]
I searched around a bit and couldn't find anything, does anybody else know about any new file systems that are being worked on?

Kevin - I did a bit of reading, and the only issue you should run into by using FAT32 on your 80 gig drive is that you're partitions can't be any bigger than 32 GBs. here's come good info.

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