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| | Software Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, Painter, etc., and all their various plugins. Of course, you can also discuss all other programs, as well. | 
12-28-2002, 04:22 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeast Oklahoma, 30 acres of pasture, trees and child rearing space.
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| | tools missing in PS7 I just installed PS7 that I got myself for Christmas. I have been using Photoshop Elements.
I notice that there are tools missing from PS7 that I had available in Elements: no airbrush tool, and the undo and redo buttons are missing from the top menu. These are what I have noted so far.
I looked through the forum and found that tools were missing when using a graphics pad, but there was no mention of these particular tools, and my periphals consist of printer and scanner.
Are these tools supposed to be there or is something wrong with my program?
My system is HP w/P4, XP Home. | 
12-28-2002, 04:41 PM
|  | Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Metro Phoenix area, Arizona
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| | I don't have PS7 yet, but here's a page on the net with info about the program. I'm sure that your manual will tell you lots more, and folks here with v7 can help also. Quote: |
After starting up the program the first thing you will notice are the new tools in the Tools palette and their 3d shaded design. The airbrush has been replaced with the “Healing Brush” and “Patch” tools – though the airbrush is still available via the brush tool. As you move the mouse over the tool symbols you get a rollover effect. In the dock there is also the new File Browser.
| PShop 7 - review from web | 
12-28-2002, 05:00 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeast Oklahoma, 30 acres of pasture, trees and child rearing space.
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| | | Thanks C.J.
I got my PS7 off Ebay, new-unregistered, but no manual. I see the airbrush tool in the tool pallette at the top, I just thought there might supposed to be one in the main toolbox.
And those Udo-Redo buttons that are missing are really useful. I now have to use the keyboard for these functions, which seems like too much work after using Elements.
Gregory | 
12-28-2002, 05:58 PM
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| | | Gregory,
The airbrush tool is on the tool bar at the top as you've already found. They moved it there (from the tool box) in PS7.
As far as Undo/Redo, it's Command/Control-z. First Ctl-z is Undo, second Ctl-z is Redo. If you press Alt-Ctl-z, you can do multiple undos. Once you get used to it, I think you'll find it faster than a button.
Or, you can just go to the history palette, back up to the step you want and start over again (or drag the step you don't want to the trash - it will trash that step and everything under it.)
Jeanie | 
12-28-2002, 07:02 PM
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| | Jeaniesa,
Thanks for the tips on the history pallette. I suppose that's something I would have figured out (not) sooner or later. It is so great to be able to post my questions here and get such immediate help.
I'm sure Adobe wouldn't leave things out of PS7 that were in Elements without a good reason. I have been using the keyboard control-alt-z and control-shift-z for those commands. I'll check out that history thing and see if it works better for me.
There is soooo much new that I have to learn W/PS7, from the looks of the menus, it'll probably take awhile. I just wanted to make sure that all the tools that were supposed to be there, were. The training disk I got w/PS7 is for PS6, and there seems to be some differences in the way things are layed out.
Thanks again to all of you for your assistance!!! Gregory | 
12-28-2002, 09:02 PM
| | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glendale, New York
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| | | You can also go to edit/undo/redo. In your preferences file you can set the number of undo's as you wish. There is a lot to learn, but once you get the hang of it, you'll like it.
Debbie | 
12-28-2002, 09:16 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by CJ Swartz ...In the dock there is also the new File Browser. | Oddly enough, the new File Browser only appears in the Dock if your screen size is set to greater than 800 x 600 - such as 1024 x 768, for instance. Just thought I'd mention that...  | 
12-28-2002, 11:32 PM
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| | Quote: |
the new File Browser only appears in the Dock if your screen size is set to greater than 800 x 600 -- BK
| Good point, BK! Same with Version 6 and the palettes in the dock. | 
12-29-2002, 08:13 AM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeast Oklahoma, 30 acres of pasture, trees and child rearing space.
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| | | Another screen size issue Bigger is Better
I don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but I thought I would mention it just in case:
A couple of weeks ago, I discovered that I could not get to the bottom of the RetouchPro menu with my screen size set to
800 x 600. Doug suggested resizing it to 1024 x 768, which resoved that problem.
But, now the web pages I designed on this computer have a huge blank space on the right side when viewed on the web. I have asked others, and they tell me their screens are full. http://www.junct.com/~gblount | 
12-29-2002, 10:45 AM
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| | | Greg, I also have a blank space on the right side. My monitor is set to 1024x768. You might try using the "CENTER" HTML tag for your pages. That way they will be centered regardless of what a person's screen resolution is - if that's the effect you want.
Jeanie | 
12-29-2002, 12:21 PM
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| | | Thanks, Jeanie...I'll go back and center it and re upload to see if that fixes things...
LATER... That fixed taht problem, too!! Thanks Again...Greg
Now, if I could just learn how to spell??!!
Last edited by gblount : 12-29-2002 at 01:48 PM.
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12-29-2002, 06:38 PM
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| | As regards having to use keyboard shortcuts, Photoshop is designed to be used with a mouse and a keyboard (2 handed), initially you may find it a bind, but stick with it and it will pay dividends in time saved on repetetive mouse clicks.  | 
12-29-2002, 07:18 PM
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| | | Your right, Mike. I downloaded the movies from the Adobe web site about "What's New In PS7" and learned some more keyboard shortcuts there.
I've been used to just sittin' back and usin' the mouse, I guess I forgot that I have a left hand. I didn't get a manual with my disk, so I am having to pick these things up here and there, but mostly HERE. tHANKS...Greg |
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