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Autohide menu poll

View Poll Results: What's your opinion of auto-hide menus?
I like them on my Windows computer 13 44.83%
I turned them off on my Windows computer (or wish I could) 13 44.83%
I like them on my Mac computer 1 3.45%
I turned them off on my Mac computer (or wish I could) 2 6.90%
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Old 01-15-2005, 07:21 AM
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Autohide menu poll

There's a discussion in a software development forum, and I thought I'd gather some information of my own to help out.

Those menus that hide little-used functions, either in Office, Internet Explorer, or even at the OS level. What's your opinion of them?
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Old 01-15-2005, 08:20 AM
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Drives me mad! Turning them off is the first thing I do!
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Old 01-15-2005, 09:45 AM
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Same here, I turn them off as soon as I install the software.
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Old 01-15-2005, 10:23 AM
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Yep, turn em all off where possible.
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Old 01-15-2005, 07:46 PM
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Exclamation

I turn them off as they're nothing but an annoyance!
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:04 AM
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Most of the time I quite like them, but on the odd occasion (generally when I can't exactly remember where something is) they annoy me.

What I really want is menus that magically know exactly what I want to do before I do it (and not those "Looks like you're writing a letter! irritating assistant thingies either. Now the Office Assistant I really hate. The only real way to kill it off seems to be not to install it in the first place.)
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:47 AM
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Same as for Leah .... If it's something I don't use every day, I tend to forget "how on earth did I do that!!!!" then I'm glad to see them .... But when the 'helpful' pop-ups or balloons are either stating the obvious or interrupting/distracting me I just 'kill' them .... verbally first....
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:53 PM
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Doug, that's a question very easy to answer.

When they are helping, they are good.
When they get in the way they are bad.

Which way it goes will depend on:
1) how "intelligent" are the menus;
2) how "intelligent" are the folks answering the question.

1) > 2) = Good
2) > 1) = Bad

RetouchPRO members aren't normal people.
No, better rephrase that...
RetouchPRO members aren't your why-do-I-have-to-plug-the-power-cord-in the-socket-if-I'm-connected-to-the-internet normal people.

So, big odds are that around here many, but the very best, menu schemes will be abhored.
However, for the teeming millions (*) all help, in any form - be it a talking wire-clip , is useful.

Now, for your discussion group, my point would be that any answer would depend on your target audience.
For the general public, you can put in as many helpers and wizards as you like and they'll still mess it up.
For the hard-core geeks don't use menus at all, they prefer to type their commands at a DOS prompt.

(oops, forgot to answer. When they help, I like 'em. When they don't, I don't mind - so that's a sortta positive answer)


(* phrase from the "Straight Dope" site)
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:55 PM
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For the hard-core geeks don't use menus at all, they prefer to type their commands at a DOS prompt.

...When they help, I like 'em. When they don't, I don't mind - so that's a sortta positive answer)

Ditto what Ro said. That's why I've not been able to learn FTP. My husband is the DOS type and insists I do it that way. The second sentence quoted is my opinion as well.

Janet
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:00 AM
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You know Doug, all these GUI things are, well gooey.

There are a lot of things that I hate about the MSFT GUI.

Although I do think they are trying to make it work for the great unwashed, not the people who can deal with the underlying DOS. I don't like the hide the weenie [sp] approach but as we make the computers more available for the above, the sooner it will work slower, oh scratch that , uh uh, better for us....
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