Is This Where I File My Complaints?

[Racc Iria]

Originally Posted by blue dog

Really?

Yes, really. By your own admission you only post a response 30% of the time. That means 70% of the time you don't contribute to posts you've viewed, either, and for the same reasons as everyone else!

The hypocrisy is that you are berating this entire community for doing what YOU have admitted to doing MOST of the time, yourself... viewing a thread and then moving along without posting a reply.

You are trying to learn your craft for free by picking the brains and experience of all those that frequent this forum. You should respect that everyone here contributes what they can when they can of their own free will. They contribute according to their interests, time, and their desire to share. So to imply that everyone is not posting often enough or with enough quality to train you for free in your chosen career just comes across as ungrateful for the help you do get. As others have said, no one here is obligated to educate you.

--Racc

[blue dog]

I am just leaving the discussion. I felt like blowing off some steam. OK? If I were mad enough to leave I wouldn't bother discussing it. Boy, text is tough! A poorly chosen word here...another there....,

As I said. Thanx for the discussion. No hard feelings. Subject over. Not going anywere.

[Gary Richardson]

Subject over. Not going anywere.

You mean its not going in a direction you want, so you'll take your bat and ball home.

OK so nobody seems to agree with your point of view, maybe that's telling you something, if not it should be.

This is not a personal attack on you, merely a disagreement with the point of view you originally espoused.

[NancyJ]

Interesting that no-one mentioned this: (or I didnt see it mentioned)

Currently Active Users: 305 (10 members and 295 guests)

Right now, only 1/30th of the people online who can view a post could actually post a response anyway.

You say not having time is BS? What delisional planet are you living on? I frequently view a post, and think about replying but I'm a busy woman, I might be looking at it while I'm in the middle of something or just about to go to bed. If I feel really strongly about something, maybe I can make the time but usually not.
Writing a good, well thought out post takes time, especially when critiquing - a lot longer than it takes just to view the post.

Also, very little point repeating what others have said, if I see an image up for critique I might take the time to look at it and do a critique in my head but then when I look at the replies, everything I saw has already been commented on, so no point in repeating.

[blue dog]

NancyJ has hit on a valid point I think. I did not know that visitors could view but not post. Why would such a large number of people choose to do that??

Gary. Its not that the discussion wasn't going my way ( it isn't), or that the outcome isn't what I expected (it is), its just that, prior to NancyJ's input, I had the impression that both sides had been fully stated, no one was going to change their minds, and things would probably remain as is. What I said about the problem with getting just the right words is that everyone seems to think that I am much more upset than I am. I am frustrated, but not irrate by any means. I simply felt that there was a broad-based injustice, not a personal affront, that needed to be pointed out.

Its like going to a restaurant and leaving mad or seriously disappointed. If you don't tell the manager, what have you really accomplished by just stomping out? I assure you that he would rather know now while he still has a chance to do something about it. I left the ranks of the timid non-complaining majority a long time ago.

Actually, I am pleased with the turn-out. If you boil down the defense, I mostly heard that its normal, it happends to everyone, and I shouldn't take it personally. I may have taken it a bit too personal before, but I won't from now on.

Let me finish what I've got to say and then go on. The two most valuable things about this site for me is the Critique and the Help forums. I don't put something up for critique because I am showing off, I do it because I am very uncertain of (1) my skills and (2) the performance (?) threshold of the industry (ies). I really need to learn what is acceptable and what is sub-par. I also really need to develop a sense of when something is done vs over-done, a case that many of you argue all the time.

Example: Take "An exercise in subtilty" I really liked what I had but could not decide if I should stop or do more. What I really wasn't expecting was Swampy's response that cited some fundamental problems that I did not recognize and, frankly, do not really know how to go about fixing. That is a really valuable lesson for me.


So please - everyone - go back to work and let this pass. I am content.