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Old 09-03-2006, 02:11 PM
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For want of a better way of saying this. I hate google ads , they are just another form of spam IMHO. They utilise content that forum users put in a post, in order to place advertisements related to their content. I do hope we do not get what I have seen on many other forum, where we have inappropriate advertisements (even with the adsense filter setting set correctly)

Sorry but thats my opinion on google ads/adsense.

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These are adverts I've seen on here so far after seaching for a simple thing llike birthday threads. eg: http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/salon/14236-special-message-flora.html

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Permanent Hair Removal
Latest advanced systems. Est 25 yrs Call 0870 429 2220 for free advise
ThePrivateClinic.co.uk


laser hair removal
face, body, armpits, bikini line from £35, clinic in Norwich surgery
www.coltishallclinic.co.uk


Adult e-Cards
Send as many as you like all free. Every 60 seconds someone sends one!
www.DevilCards.com

NOT very well targeted ads really, are they? And the reason I hope they don't stay

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Old 09-03-2006, 02:52 PM
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When did google start doing graphical ads?! They're so 90s.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:08 PM
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I don't mind the google adds being there, I realize the site doesn't pay for itself!
But these adds are pretty annoying, because they change tho whole apperance of the site. The layout has narrowed down drastically.
Isn't there a way to move the adds horizontal to the top of the page, so we don't see them anymore when we scroll down?
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:44 PM
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The forum width is the same it's always been (look at the RP logo, I didn't change anything).

Ads should get more and more relevant over time.

I'll try to make them prettier after I determine whether they're worth the bother at all.
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Old 09-03-2006, 08:14 PM
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The forum width is the same it's always been
Oh my mistake, then the layout just moved to the left I guess.
Ok no problem, we will get use to it!
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Old 09-04-2006, 03:41 AM
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These are the instructions I usually give about Hosts files.
  • Hosts file:
    • Every version of windows has a hosts file as part of them.
    • In a very basic sense, they are used to locate webpages.
    • We can customize a hosts file so that it blocks certain webpages.
    • However, it can slow down certain computers.
    • This is why using a hosts file is optional!!
    • Make sure you read the instructions on how to install the hosts file, here.
  • If you decide to download the hosts file, the slowdown problems can usually be avoided by following these steps:
    • Click the start button (at the lower left hand corner of your screen)
    • Click run
    • In the dialog box, type services.msc
    • hit enter, then locate dns client
    • Highlight it, then double-click it.
    • On the dropdown box, change the setting from automatic to manual.
    • Click ok

To explain as simply as possible.

When your browser seeks to resolve a web name into a IP address, it looks for it in a very specific order.

First it looks on your computer for the HOSTS file. This is a file where your computer saves web addresses and their related IP addresses. By default it is empty. However you can add names and their related addresses to it. If your browser finds the web adress you are seeking here, it will look no further. It will not connect to a DNS server.

This can be used as a way to block you visiting Harmful sites. You merely enter the site name you wish to block, and give it the IP No 127.0.0.1 (which is the loopback address for your computer). Now when you try to visit this bad site, your computer loops back and you are unable to access the site.

Several HOSTS files are available that have large lists of known malicious sites, you add these to the native hosts file on your computer, and this will block you from visiting those sites.

As we are talking about Google adds, might I recommend an add on to those of you who use Firefox as your browser.

Its called Customise Google and is available HERE

It allows you to customise Google, so you can do any or all of the following (I've boldened the ones I use):

* Use Google Suggest (suggest words while you're typing)
* Add links to competitors
* Rewrite links to point straight to the images in Google Images
* Removes image copying restrictions in Google Book Search
* Secure Gmail and Google Calendar, switch to https
* Block Google Analytics cookies
* Hide the Gmail spam counter

* Remove ads
* Anonymize your Google userid
* Add a result counter in search result
* Filter spammy websites from search results
* Add links to WayBack Machine (webpage history)
* Remove click tracking
* Add links from Google to your bookmark manager
* Use a fixed font for Gmail mail bodies

Makes using Google a lot more user friendly.

Ken, Hosts file will not block the adds. Which browser are you using. Depending on how the adds are being added to the webpage, your browser may be unable to download them.

I don't see them either, and I'm not going to try to change the condition either. I hate ads, and all that goes with them, though I can understand why Doug may feel he has to go down that particular road.

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Old 09-04-2006, 04:30 AM
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The bottom banner isn't that intrusive, but the side one does look out of place. It also side shifts the layout of the forum/site.
If this is an experiment for funding retouchpro, may I offer an alternative. Code a paypal donate button in to the forum, so it shows at the bottom of each post (Next to Quote button). Add to this a message such as "If you found this post useful, please donate to RetouchPro"
Then when someone is helped on here, they can repay that help with a donation. I know Flora has a donate link in her sig, but if this was on every post, it may just generate the income the site needs.
To me the Google commercial ads have thrown the NONE-COMMERCIAL image of retouchPro to the side
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:22 AM
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Sorry to shatter any illusions, but I never intended RP to be non-commercial. I didn't start RP to be a cozy little cul-de-sac on the internet. It's remained a hobby solely because all the donations and Amazon links don't even provide maintenance expenses, let alone a war-chest to hire programmers to build and maintain the 99% of the site that's still in my imagination.

Granted, I never intended to go the advertising route, but passing around a bigger hat or more hats leaves me feeling like a beggar (and an ungreatful beggar when I have to confess that the donations aren't enough) and the ads don't.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:43 AM
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I don't think you've shattered any illusions for me Doug, the site needs funds, and you feel that this is the best way to acquire them.

Currently I don't see them, and as long as I can continue to filter them out, I don't care a jot whether you have them or not.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:07 AM
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RetouchPRO is non-commercial, and relies on the generosity of our users to exist. Please give what you can to support our on-going maintenance and to fund our future growth. So far contributions from users just like you have enabled our forum software upgrade, our new Gallery, our links database, and even the server space we exist on. There are many more good things on the horizon, but only with your financial support. We have no user-fees or membership charges, but please give what you can, even if it's only a dollar or two. Just ask yourself what the services and community offered by RetouchPRO are worth to you. Without your vital support, there IS no RetouchPRO. (If you'd rather use PayPal, our PayPal email address is paypal@retouchpro.com and if you'd rather use snailmail email me at dnelson@retouchpro.com and I'll send an address to mail it to)
Thats what I read, and the reason I assumed you stood by the none-commercial ideal. I don't think that handing the (hat) paypal donate button round would make you look like you were begging. It just gives the NEW and old users a quick, clear and easy way to support the site. Fact is without Flora's signature link, I would not have even known where to donate. The Donations in the drop down menu doesn't seem to work? You get forwarded to the Amazon home page ???

May be a contest where a $1 donation is required to enter, could boost funds?
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