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Old 12-21-2007, 04:42 PM
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I didn't accuse you of using some else's retouching work.
I said that photo is not yours to use.
And you know that because you own the royalties to that picture right?
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:44 PM
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I don't have to own the rights to it to know that it's not yours.

Need I have to show you the uncropped one to prove it here?
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:46 PM
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I don't have to own the rights to it to know that it's not yours.

Need I have to show you the uncropped one to prove it here?
Whatever makes you happy and feel better.
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:48 PM
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Listen child,

You're acting like a fool. You made a mistake in using another's photograph.
Get over yourself.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:00 PM
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Listen child,

You're acting like a fool. You made a mistake in using another's photograph.
Get over yourself.
Yes old man. But that was not my point at all. I didn't even think about my website when I posted here.

This thread is about bashing someone's work.

My point are that it's better to focus on improving ourselves rather than bashing others we consider to be below us and that it's a free market.

If you want to go on a personal vendetta against me, enjoy yourself. I do not take credit for the photograph, I take credit for the retouches.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:03 PM
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Hi Enkay,

I think Bill means the copyright (or non) to the original image.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:10 PM
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Hi Amy,

You might want to register yourself HERE.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:12 PM
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That's right, Alison.

Enkay, you can't use someone else's photograph and use it on your website to show your retouching. It's against the copyright law. It's bad form in the photography/retouching worlds and marks your site as unprofessional.

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If you want to go on a personal vendetta against me, enjoy yourself. I do not take credit for the photograph, I take credit for the retouches.
There is no vendetta, and I'm not putting down your work. You have much to learn, but you'll get there as long as you start listening and learning and stop being so defensive.

Perhaps you don't intend to come off as confrontational, but that's how I'm reading you and others are too.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:14 PM
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Hi Enkay,

I think Bill means the copyright (or non) to the original image.
Bill's point is that I replied what I did in this thread because I'm defensive about this one picture that's on my site. I find that insulting because I made valid points and my website has nothing to do with it.

I'm against bashing the work of others even when you consider it to be crap and I also believe in a free market.

The picture he's refering to is wildly used all over the internet in tutorials. I agree it's not the best idea to use it on my website but I figured it wouldn't hurt much as the website is not launched and I'm not announcing it and I didn't really expect anyone to go on it except me.

Maybe we should take down all the tutorial websites too? They're surely making more money than I am with that picture.

EDIT: I actually took down links to my website as I don't want people to look at an unfinished product. I wasn't even aware people were looking at it.

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Old 12-21-2007, 05:26 PM
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Bill's point is that I replied what I did in this thread because I'm defensive about this one picture that's on my site. I find that insulting because I made valid points and my website has nothing to do with it.

I'm against bashing the work of others even when you consider it to be crap and I also believe in a free market.

The picture he's refering to is wildly used all over the internet in tutorials. I agree it's not the best idea to use it on my website but I figured it wouldn't hurt much as the website is not launched and I'm not announcing it and I didn't really expect anyone to go on it except me.

Maybe we should take down all the tutorial websites too? They're surely making more money than I am with that picture.
Hi Enkay,

I agree with a lot that you have said, I also agree with a lot that Amy has said.

We all have to start somewhere and then we learn some more and improve our techniques. If people want to pay cash to the other person for his/her work, that is fine by me - and yes, I believe in a free market as well.

The image on your site is a whole other matter. Just because it is on loads of sites on the web, doesn't make it a free for all. The image may not have any copyright to it at all, it may be worth investigating though, to see if it has.

The person from the original post is not false advertising, because I haven't seen a definite meaning to the words 'retouch', 'professionals' etc., Everyone has a different definition and standard that they aspire to, and it is not for me or anyone else to try and determine what meaning others associate with those words.
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