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Old 04-10-2008, 07:17 AM
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Hey,
I'm a photographer/ Studio Manager, running a portrait studio for a large company. We use photoshop everyday for basic retouching. I am wanting to move into retouching professionally, but am lost as to where to start. Is there a course I must have under my belt? Apart from knowing photoshop inside out what other tools are used? Where do I start? What are the best agencies? Any help or advice would be very gratefully received!

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Old 04-11-2008, 03:39 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Hi Allie, I say this over and over when people ask. To be really great you must know how to draw. Take some figure drawing and or anatomy drawing classes. A lot of people have the basic knowledge of photoshop and then therefore think that they can retouch. But to be better then the tech's you need the drawing/painting skills. Then just beat the pavement(or internet, I should say).ha! And for that there are a lot of good threads on this site and National Association of Photoshop Professionals.
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:03 AM
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Thanks wtowle. Much appreciated. Is this what potential employers look for? Also, I'm finding it hard to get a foot in the door regarding job vacancies, so I will check out the NAPP. Thanks again.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Why do you have to know how to draw? I draw stick people and I make a nice living at this. What are you drawing?
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:12 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Seems kind of backwards, but anyways. I actually started out working for Miller's Imaging, I knew bits of photoshop before i worked there. What helped me was the practice. Spending lots of time with photoshop, learning tools, what they do, how they affect the image. And learning quick keys only made it faster since most retouchers will use one hand on key board and other using stylus on a wacom tablet. Drawing helps, but I don't think its necessary. Theres tons of workshops out there and lots of online video tutorials. Getting client for your freelance business will be the hard part. Good luck!
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Old 04-12-2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

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Why do you have to know how to draw? I draw stick people and I make a nice living at this. What are you drawing?
benny,

i think wtowle gave a good advice. it's not what you draw when you retouch but what you apply to retouching from learning in these art classes. i find having a background in fine arts does help me when come to retouching. hey, who says stick people isn't art

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Old 04-12-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

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i think wtowle gave a good advice. it's not what you draw when you retouch but what you apply to retouching from learning in these art classes. i find having a background in fine arts does help me when come to retouching. hey, who says stick people isn't art
Think for a second. Are you just justifying time wasted for the BFA? How does it help you? Do you render?
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

who said you must have a degree in BFA to retouch? having some basic knowledge of drawing and painting wouldn't hurt. you said you're making a nice living but how can we verify that. where can one look at some of your work?

should we save the money and time by having our kids stay home? there are plenty of self made millionaires that didn't finish high school. they seem to make a nice living.

from my experience, having some knowledge in art helps me retouch better. isn't so wrong to let someone know the benefits from these art classes? it's great that you doing fine with retouching without knowing how to draw or paint but it's absurd that you think it wasn't a good advice
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:09 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

sigh..........the amount of bad advice and misinformation on this board is hard to ignore at times. I'm outta here. Go listen to Mr. art guy and the NAPP.
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:23 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

I appreciate any advice from people in the industry, and understand that different takes on the matter is not a bad thing. Many thanks.
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

I also started in the photography side and switched over to retouching. I do not think you need to take any drawing or painting classes to be a better retoucher. You will have to start at the bottom and work your way up just like anyone. I would put together a PDF with some of your samples of before and afters and go online and apply for every jr retouching position you can find and that you can learn from. When you go to interview they will most likely test you to figure out your skill level. In the mean time keep reading up on tutorials and practicing.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Books, tutorials and forums related to Photoshop. Read and study everything you can. There is a lot of Photoshop related information on the web.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Benny Profane,

I always see you making the quick comment about topics and you say that you make a nice living at retouching. But, I have never seen your work. Do you have a link?
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

Hahaha you'll be lucky. More chance of plaiting sand!
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:34 AM
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Re: Photographer to Retoucher...Advice needed Pls!

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Benny Profane,

I always see you making the quick comment about topics and you say that you make a nice living at retouching. But, I have never seen your work. Do you have a link?
No. well, except for the missing one....
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