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Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

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Old 06-16-2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

dvool

I agree with the other great comments, just wanted to comment on the roll-over's on you website.

Most roll-over examples I have encountered have shown the original picture first THEN the retouched example.
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

Hi Dvool,you need a marketing plan,not just a website and the plan should be for at least 12months.Theres lots of info on the net how to do this,so I dont need to tell you

Plus Cheap rates dont equal getting jobs
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:14 AM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

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on the webpage itself.... I noticed there no meta keywords!! when people go searching on the internet for a retoucher..... those keywords are important...
disregard that, no search engines still use meta keywords.
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:48 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

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Hey ya'll.

I've made a profile on modelmayhem.com and have been on the website for about 3 weeks now. I decided to charge $20/hr, but I haven't gotten any response/work.

I think my portfolio is pretty solid.
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=727438

Since I am not getting any work, should I lower my asking price? $15/hr?

Or maybe come up with a price based on the level of work per image?
Like $10 dollars for basic retouch.
$20 dollars for advanced or something?

I feel more comfortable with an hourly rate though, especially since working on fine details of skin or what-not can take many hours.


Sorry for asking a question about rates, I think this is asked a lot. I just wanted some opinions. I thought $20/hr was reasonable.

First of all you joined the wrong website to find work. I am also have a profile on Model Mayhem (MM#354907). Don't expect paid work from that website. People expect everything for free there.
You should show your portfolio to local fashion photographers who have regular clients. They will be glad to have you as their re-touching artist.
Don't lower your rate.
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:18 AM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

I agree with digtalcanvas. Don't lower your price. You start to look desperate. You're in the LA area for Pete's sake. Get out on the street and pay sales calls on the photographers and model studios. Take some kind of specialty item to leave behind with your name and phone number on it (coffee cup, lense cleaner pack, letter opener etc.) Your work is very good, but you've got to make sure that your potential clients SEE it and REMEMBER YOU. So get out and introduce yourself.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

Thanks digtalcanvas, thanks swampy, for the advice.

Yah, I think approaching photographers or studios is the way to go.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

I agree with what was posted as far as getting a photo has serious issues and retouching it.

Talking about before shots that have heavy warm/orange color casts.

Check these B/As:

http://www.retouchpro.com/gallery/sh...ser/15940/sl/b

http://www.retouchpro.com/gallery/sh...ser/15940/sl/b

Do some like the links I posted and it will show a drastic change to the better.
The change has to be drastic to hit people in the face (granted some are familiar with retouching and can spot the subtle differences but most are not).
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:36 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

I think most of the folks hit the nail on the head. I am no retoucher but I have been shooting ad work for a very long time. When I first started out I was only 19 and pounding down the doors of clients that had been using photographers with years and years of experience.
I think I did as most people would do in my situation or with any job situation and I lowered my day rate to try and lowball the more experienced shooters. There is no way to say this without sounding boastful but I am not trying to be at all. I was a damn good shooter right out of school and instead of trying to get jobs with smaller clients I went right for the big boys but kept getting shot down but at the same time being told how good my portfolio was. One day I sat down with the execs and art directors of a little company you may have heard of called Tropicana. I had literally swamped them with promo pieces, resumes, references and phone calls, enough that they finally played a little bit of attention to me for no reason other than to get me to shut the hell up I am sure. My book was loved by all of the ad execs and art directors but once again I was shot down. That night the head art director called me at home and gave me the best advice anyone has ever given me in reference to my business. He said, "Chris, everyone is blown away by your work but you are under bidding, double your day rate." From that point on I doubled my day rate sometimes even more depending on the market I would be shooting in. As I matured I began to understand that people will give you excellent pay for excellent work. Underbidding tends to give some people the idea that you have no confidence in your abilities, so why should they. As I started mingling my ad work with the sale of fine art prints I found the same situation. It's a fine line between too much and too little but you can always come down on a price, especially if you are standing there as a customer is eyeballing a piece of your work. "Mam, I see you like that piece, it's been hanging here a while without much of anyone showing interest. If you would like it I'll go ahead and knock a hundred off for you 'cause between you and me I need the extra wall space for some new pieces. I swear, it works almost every time. People who buy are especially feel that if it's a bit expensive it must be REALLY GOOD and this guy must be REALLY GOOD to put that price on his work. I love my customers, especially those that buy my fine art photos or my fish paintings. It has always been hard for me to let my work go, like I am giving up my child for adoption. I always get personal info on the customer and send them a thank you card and usually a bottle of wine. I guess that long winded, run on sentence just means, DOUBLE YOUR RATE, you may be surprised.

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Old 07-10-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

Excellent advice, Chris!
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: Not getting any work, should I lower rate?

Excellent advice, actually i did kind of the same thing...
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