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Old 07-19-2009, 06:11 PM
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How could freelance retouchers living in the west compete with the kind of rate retouchers in India and other Asian countries offer? What rate is too low for western living standard and what low rate is unreasonable for western living standard?
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:38 AM
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I don't get your message, but a indian family can live with 30usd for six months like a mid-high wealth... Google the cost of living in India for more info.
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:39 PM
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With the global economy, the advantage of what we do is that we could work with any companies in the world as long as we are on the net, the downside is the rate we have to compete with now, some of the jobs that are gone because of the high cost in the US, might never return, like some retouching or graphic design jobs.
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:14 PM
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it's called globalization, get used to it as it will only get worse for those in the western world...
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:06 PM
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Globalization is screwed up from my perspective. We've created quite an elaborate quality of life here in the U.S.A. over the last 100 years but now it's time to give it all away to 3rd world low cost labor countries. As all the jobs transfer out, I don't have to be happy about it and stand at the dock, smiling while waving goodbye.

Our Federal Government refuses to protect any of our industries or jobs. They prefer to bail everyone out by throwing money at them, hundreds of billions if not Trillions. All the while the jobs are still disappearing. The money throwing will not fix the economy, just prolong the agony!

I promise, no more soap box. Just couldn't resist.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:00 PM
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Well... That was I was explaining to my gf few days ago... Indians live with just 5 dollars per month unless their economy had changed, but that is the data I saw in google (they retouch a picture for 0,1 cent of dollars, not 1 cent, 0,1 cent and sometimes less than that. This data is from craig lists). So, I explained to my gf that first world countries are just dropping abroad all the jobs, so, the result is getting products at very cheap prices, made by people from countries such India. The consecuence is the people from first world will have not the same income to buy those products because unemploymeent nor the indians will have not the money to buy those because the payment... Quite hipothesis but more real every day.

I think entery world will finish in some kind of grey comunism managed by big enterprises, just like now, but without the comunism... Seems just like the beginning...
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:29 PM
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Globalization is screwed up from my perspective. We've created quite an elaborate quality of life here in the U.S.A. over the last 100 years but now it's time to give it all away to 3rd world low cost labor countries. As all the jobs transfer out, I don't have to be happy about it and stand at the dock, smiling while waving goodbye.

Our Federal Government refuses to protect any of our industries or jobs. They prefer to bail everyone out by throwing money at them, hundreds of billions if not Trillions. All the while the jobs are still disappearing. The money throwing will not fix the economy, just prolong the agony!

I promise, no more soap box. Just couldn't resist.
So tell us just how the Federal Government would protect your job as a photographic retoucher>
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:03 PM
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Well, they won't but they certainly could. Congress has the constitutional right to create LAWS to regulate commerce. Problem is Big Business isn't interested in protecting domestic jobs and Congress does what Big Business wants, normally. It's too lucrative to go elsewhere. Mike, there are lots of historical examples of protecting the domestic economy over the past couple centuries. It's just hard to find any present day examples because it's politically incorrect to even use the word "protectionist" today.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:15 AM
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So tell us just how the Federal Government would protect your job as a photographic retoucher>
Protect!? Nah... In Argentina the job "Photographic Retoucher" doesn't exists... Anyway, in these times where economy is the most important thing I think governments care a shit about anything but money. Just look few years and few centuries, and even far away and you will see that conquers were more about honor than money. Nowadays, honor is just a fairy tale...
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:29 AM
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Well, they won't but they certainly could. Congress has the constitutional right to create LAWS to regulate commerce. Problem is Big Business isn't interested in protecting domestic jobs and Congress does what Big Business wants, normally. It's too lucrative to go elsewhere. Mike, there are lots of historical examples of protecting the domestic economy over the past couple centuries. It's just hard to find any present day examples because it's politically incorrect to even use the word "protectionist" today.
That's a good point. I'm quite an ignorant in the economic/government/laws stuff, but you make it quite easy to understand. Medium and small enterprises are regularized by government but big enterprises just not... Same happens here, in Argentina and worst because big enterprises come from USA and Europe (some from Asia) and government care a shit about the domestic economy so imagine in your country the big enterprises care a shit about this, imagine the big enterprises coming from your country and the like in Argentina... It's just a carnage... I'm wondering why those giants cannot stop fighting each other because they're literally destroying all sorrounding them, even the economy of their own countries... I believe this will end in some kind of Brazil, the movie by Terry Gilliam.
Here are a lot of those things called Call Center you know, that's the new plague since year 2006 and nowadays every single thing, from pens to ballons and also computers and bigger stuff comes from China while business and that kind of things comes from USA/Europe.

Believe it or not, here there are some studios from Europe/USA physically here, hiring people from here for peanuts and of course, training them to achieve the professionalism of USA and Europe... Quite scary.

I think we only have one solution: become one of them.
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