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Old 01-21-2011, 05:49 AM
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Really hate the expression high end.

What the heck does high end retouching mean?
I keep seeing it being offered but when I look at the images they don't look very high end.
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:35 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

What does professional photographer with 15 years of
Experience means? I keep seeing that in bios but the portfolio doesn't seem to agree

Yes... It's the same thing
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:30 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

In the 80's and 90's most hand retouching gave way to digital 'second original' image manipulation. 'High end' (powerful) computers were necessary to handle the large file sizes and hourly charge rates of £300 were the norm. At those prices the workload picked itself ie 'High end' spend products such as booze, cars, cosmetics etc. By default this attracted the best artist/operators and their work became 'high end'. Like a lot of things in the world of smoke and mirrors, it means something and nothing!
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:31 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

To me, high end retouching is a useful term. A beauty shot that has received high end retouching should look almost like an untouched photograph, but without any skin imperfections and with wonderful lighting and expertly applied makeup. Only when you compare the untouched original with the final version is it clear that there has been retouching. This is a totally different thing from a shot which has been blurred and had a bit of noise or grain added.

BTW, a professional photographer with 15 years of experience means someone who has been taking photographs for 15 years (could be as little as a dozen shots per year) and gets paid to take photographs. It says nothing about the quality of the persons photography.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:38 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

Nice one repairman, I like your reasoning and answer!
If you worked in hand retouching can you give some explanation as to why rgb values go from 0 to 255, it's always bugged me.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:48 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

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Nice one repairman, I like your reasoning and answer!
If you worked in hand retouching can you give some explanation as to why rgb values go from 0 to 255, it's always bugged me.
But for today's industry, I think I would go with the Fraiseap. reason is simple. images should not look edited and your photoshopping should be creative.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:56 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

So, creative comps of disparate elements don't count as high end? Think again!
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:23 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

Maybe I should have said really hate the way the expression high end has been hijacked.
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:46 AM
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Re: Really hate the expression high end.

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In the 80's and 90's most hand retouching gave way to digital 'second original' image manipulation. 'High end' (powerful) computers were necessary to handle the large file sizes and hourly charge rates of £300 were the norm. At those prices the workload picked itself ie 'High end' spend products such as booze, cars, cosmetics etc. By default this attracted the best artist/operators and their work became 'high end'. Like a lot of things in the world of smoke and mirrors, it means something and nothing!
...and sounds better than the overused "the best".
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:46 PM
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BTW, a professional photographer with 15 years of experience means someone who has been taking photographs for 15 years (could be as little as a dozen shots per year) and gets paid to take photographs. It says nothing about the quality of the persons photography.
Exactly my point
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