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Old 08-25-2002, 03:36 PM
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Web site usability

Maybe it's just the heat and humidity that's making me cranky today, but I've been looking over some of the members' web sites and I have a bit of advice to offer. Remember who your potential customers are.

As graphics professionals, you probably have at least a 17" monitor - probably larger. Most people don't.

It's bad enough to have to scroll sideways to look at graphics, but when you have to scroll sideways to read each line of text, it gets really annoying and most people quit reading very soon - and they could be missing important information about your business and you could be losing customers.

It is good web design practice to create your pages so they can be viewed to best advantage by the majority of people - and believe it or not, the majority of people still have 15" or smaller monitors. Maybe all the people in your acquaintance have larger monitors, but remember your friends are probably as keen as you are.

If people viewing your web site have a big honkin monitor, they probably have PhotoShop too and can do their own restorations.

Just a thought
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:09 PM
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Margaret,
Good advice - especially regarding text. I find that very annoying myself.

I imagine that, in many cases, the problem lies with the web page design. Many of us are not very good at website design - perhaps you could email an "FYI" to the owner and let them know.

Personally, although I try to limit my image sizes to approx. 800 x 600, I've never thought about monitor size! I've always thought that if the screen resolution was higher, one could view the page, without much scrolling.

I just checked my site webstats: 49% (out of 9984 viewers), have their screen resolution set to 1024 x 768. 29% have their screen resolution set to 800 x 600.

Oh, and one other interesting note. The majority of visitors to my site come from Katrin Eisman's site - so they are doing their own restorations!!
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:37 PM
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Hi Vicki - I looked at your site and liked what I saw. Scrolling to see the images wasn't a problem because it wasn't "read a bit, scroll, read a bit, scroll back"

Before I go any further, I really liked all the sites I visited - some amazing and creative work. If and when I get around to posting a web site, I'll be hard pressed to do as well.

You mention the 800x600 standard and that will include most people. Unfortunately, the older, smaller monitors don't do well at higher resolutions. For example, all iMacs (except for the most recent ones with the flat screen) have 15" monitors that are capable of displaying up to 1024x768, but at that resolution you need a magnifying glass to read it. As someone mentioned the other day, most of their customers are in the "bifocal" generation and we generally don't like higher resolution/smaller print.

Even at 800x600, by the time you allow for scroll bars and all the junk that the browser puts along the sides and top, the viewing area of the browser window is more like 750x500 (maybe even less).

I guess the design of a web site depends on who the owner wants to attract. If the aim is to attract other like-minded (and similarly equipped) professionals go for the larger size. If on the other hand the aim is to attract paying customers, it might be wise to keep in mind their limited screen size.

"So," you're probably asking, "where is winwintoo's web site?" Well, I'm having enough trouble keeping up with the few customers that I attract through word of mouth - a web site is in my future, but not for a while yet.

Have a good day,
Margaret
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Old 08-25-2002, 06:40 PM
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That's something to think about. We have a second computer with a 15" monitor. Display is set at 600 X 800. Anything smaller is very hard to read. Wouldn't the display resolution have more to do with the problem mentioned than the size of the monitor?

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Old 08-25-2002, 07:20 PM
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Doesn't much matter whether it's the display resolution or the size of the monitor, my point is that there are many people who can't view a wide page without scrolling from side to side - and creating pages that require people to scroll side to side is bad design.

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Old 08-25-2002, 07:26 PM
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I agree sideways scrolling is bad. The usual way of correcting this is using a width tag, if set for 90-100% it should stop the user having to sideways scroll.But I'm not sure if it's only for tables. Ill have to check that out. Now I'm off to check my pages, I'm not sure if I've followed my own advice on the recent updates.

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Old 08-26-2002, 10:48 AM
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http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...html?tw=design this is a link to the browser sizes and chrome measurements.

I have little sympathy to those who choose obscure non compliant browsers or with outmoded equipment, but if it is a business site, it is a sad fact that web designers will have to cater for them.

My other huge bugbear is people having their screen resolution set to low. A prime example is my business partner has no visual impairments and a 19" monitor and has his resolution set to 1024x768 - this is ideally the resolution for a 15" monitor. The only exception other than personal preference is visual impairment. I mean no offence to those who have outmoded equipment (in part I am one of them) but the times march on and we must move with them. Noone really wants Nielson like usability and the web is nothing if not a visual repository as well as an information database.

On my personal (not business) site I design at 1024 resolution and pretty much only cater for IE5 and above and Netcape 6 and above , I expect users to either embrace the reasons for my descision or go elsewhere - Sadly not a choice I can afford to make for my business.
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Old 08-26-2002, 11:53 AM
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Mike, Ouch!!
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Old 08-26-2002, 02:11 PM
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Mike - I have to disagree with a couple of your points. I have my 19" monitor set to 1024x768 for one very good reason...no flicker! My video card supports up to 1600x1200, but at that resolution the 60hz refresh rate causes a headache within seconds! Even 85hz causes my eyes to strain over time. At 1024x768 I have a rock solid 100hz and can stare at the screen for hours with no eye strain. It's basically a trade off between seeing more or seeing longer and has nothing to do with outmoded equipment.

I do agree that you should design for newer browsers but it also does not take that much effort to insure backwards compatibility. For example, placing alt tags in image map links insures anyone browsing with graphics off will be able to navigate your site. Granted, only 5-10% of your viewers might be using out dated browsers or 15" monitors, but it does not really take that much time or effort to insure they can view your site. Of course, I have only designed a grand total of two websites! One is an online poetry e-zine my brother publishes and the other is a personal art gallery. Both are rather graphics heavy but I tried to keep the 800x600 resolution in mind and tested both sites in several browsers. On the poetry site we have had large variety of browsers (even text only due to slow connections in some countries) and have had no bad comments about the site..so far!
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Old 08-26-2002, 04:11 PM
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Greg - you brought up another good point for designers to remember - image size.
In my opinion, that is at the top of the list of things to consider. Although I want the best possible image to be displayed, it is of no use if the viewer has a slow connection and won't wait for the image to appear. I refuse to stay at any site that doesn't make the effort to resize images for ease of viewing.
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