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Old 11-29-2005, 05:55 PM
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Hi Jill:

Congrats, you got your site up and running quite fast, so you are much better than me in that regard.

Further, I should note, that your site is not as plain jane beginner site, as most would believe. Because I was not able to find any source code for the pages you do have, which is to me is very clever and quite advanced in programming I might add.

I, must agree with Nancy, that eventually you would need to get a prof to do the site, if you are going to use it to generate dollars, else, the present site is sufficient as it is, provided it is fast despite its graphics. I must further say, that in support of Nancy, that it is far better to receive constructive criticism, than complements. I for one, would prefer that someone tell me, that my work stinks, if it does, than be told what a wonderful job I am doing. Having said that, I sure would like to know from Nancy, an example of a professionally designed site.

Somebody here mentioned, why gifs ? Gifs are needed if you plan to use transparent images in your site as overlaying other images. Jpeg's do not recognize a transparency. Why would you use an image with a transparency ? You might have a great background image in your site, and your want to have a daily variable foreground image, in which case, the foreground image would need a transparent background in order to see the main background image of the site, and in this case, you save the foreground image along with its transparency as a gif image. Recently, there have been some copyright issues with gif's being owned by compuserve, so many use png's to avoid any copyright hassles.

Good Luck.
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:17 PM
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only problem with pngs with transparency is that IE does not support transparency
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:11 AM
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Further, I should note, that your site is not as plain jane beginner site, as most would believe. Because I was not able to find any source code for the pages you do have, which is to me is very clever and quite advanced in programming I might add.
not really... scroll down.

As for professionally designed websites.
check out www.stylegala.com - it lists some of the best websites around for good design.
or for a larger range of sites try http://www.cssbeauty.com/
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:26 PM
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I would be interested in your website to see as an example, instead of bragging and rudeness. I am sure you are very good at your job. But I am putting you on my blocked, this site has always been full of friendly folks with helpful well inteneded advice.
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:05 PM
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actually, the sites that stylegala has rated the highest are some of the blandest sites I have ever seen. They are just blogs with pretty pictures as headers and so forth.

None of those sites grabs my attention and none of what I have seen on there is easily distinguishable as to what the site is offering.

blahhhhh.

but yeah nancy, lets see your site?

one of my favorite sites that gets its point across yet keeps its design minimal is http://adzn.net/ as an aside, his photography is amazing
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:11 PM
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None of those sites grabs my attention and none of what I have seen on there is easily distinguishable as to what the site is offering.
Mostly they're not offering anything :p stylegala dont have many commerical sites. As I said, CssBeauty is better for variety.
on of my favorites is Joshua Ink. Its the first site in a long time thats really leapt out at me as being stunningly original.

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but yeah nancy, lets see your site?
ha ha, not a chance, I'm busy enough I have several websites but my personal website I keep private and only show to potential clients.
I'm currently working on about 3 different personal projects as well as commercial work.

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one of my favorite sites that gets its point across yet keeps its design minimal is http://adzn.net/ as an aside, his photography is amazing
And you call stylegala's sites bland The design is non existant apart from the unnecessary flash navigation. There are numerous javascript errors and if thats what passes for amazing photography these days I should get out my old holiday snaps :p

If you want a site that looks good and is obvious what its offering look at :
http://www.tirolskaizba.sk/en/index.html
...I'm hungry now.
http://www.hartstrings.com/
Awful clothes, beautiful site
http://rose.clanretribution.net
Nice little personal site, a little graphics heavy but the text only version doesnt look bad either.
http://www.offtone.com/
Another fave of mine, not offering anything but some nice photos too
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:34 PM
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If you want a site that looks good and is obvious what its offering look at :
http://www.tirolskaizba.sk/en/index.html

I agree NancyJ, that one jumped out at me as well. As for the site that adzn.net site, I got a page not found so.... I don't know what is happening there.

I think the biggest problem here is that you aren't being understood. I frankly like how blunt you are at times because you don't sugarcoat things. While it's great to hear "Oh wow your website looks great!" or "Lookin good", sometimes the smack you in the face comments are the ones that help the most. See my best friend is the same way, I mean sometimes I have to get out the saltshaker (if ya know what I mean) but if I overlook the wording she uses, she's usually right and if not 100% atleast it helps me see the right direction.

I believe that regardless of what a website is used for, the more professional looking, the better. Even if my website was going to be used to show people my work and not find clients from the web, I want it to look as professional as possible because I believe that it upsells or generates return business on a subconscience level.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:49 PM
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I have been following this thread because I have been thinking of getting a web site and there is a wealth of information here. Nancyj...you are straight and to the point, almost the "Simon Cowell" of Retouch Pro, but I thank you for all of the info that you have given on this subject. I would not even attempt to make a web page now. I do think that it is important to look as professional as you can afford too.

Cathy
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:46 PM
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ehhhhh adzn changed his site....oh well, pay no attention to me anyway.

but as far as http://www.tirolskaizba.sk/en/index.html goes.....its nice and all, but it has some weird thing where if you go to the gallery, click an image it opens a new window in the upper left, then the window pops into the middle of the screen....its kind of odd....and an eye sore to say the least.

and nancy, i'm not condemning you, im sort of agreeing with you more than anything. I'm just not a big fan of big flashy sites with lots of worthless graphics that hog the page.

I hate scrolling, hahah...i know it sounds silly, but I get annoyed when i have to scroll unless its an article i am reading or something similar to that.

instead of talking about what is good, as it all is just a matter of personal opinion, how about examples of bad.

this site is fairly poorly thrown together, it's much better than it used to be, but still just a big eyesore imho...www.butterflyalphabet.com.

but again, i will say that i agree with you that there is a ton of puke out there....so weeeeeeeeee
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:06 PM
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ehhhhh adzn changed his site....oh well, pay no attention to me anyway.

but as far as http://www.tirolskaizba.sk/en/index.html goes.....its nice and all, but it has some weird thing where if you go to the gallery, click an image it opens a new window in the upper left, then the window pops into the middle of the screen....its kind of odd....and an eye sore to say the least.
Thats just a bit of javascript to center the popup, its easily disabled.
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and nancy, i'm not condemning you, im sort of agreeing with you more than anything. I'm just not a big fan of big flashy sites with lots of worthless graphics that hog the page.
Me neither, but you said the other sites were bland :p Just no pleasing some people

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instead of talking about what is good, as it all is just a matter of personal opinion, how about examples of bad.

this site is fairly poorly thrown together, it's much better than it used to be, but still just a big eyesore imho...www.butterflyalphabet.com.
You want bad... look at any site on http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

http://www.bbhq.com/ is a good one hehe
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