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Old 01-25-2007, 08:41 AM
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Angry Unsolicitated Critique

I am opening up this retoucher Steven A. Tyler at:
http://www.retouchthis.info/
To group critique. This kind soul decided to send me this email:

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:40:35 -0500 [01/24/07 19:40:35 EST]
From: "Steven A. Tyler" <stylersway@hotmail.com>
To: grafx@justgrafx.com
Subject: Your retouching...

You¹ve got a long way to go chief... The model/fashion part on your site is
something else! Most of them are so over brushed that they look like wax
dummies.

Please feel free to drop him an email or two. His stuff looks pretty good, but it too is a little over airbrushed. We all know that my clients request such a look, but to send someone an email like the one above is just a bit mean at heart. Granted, I'm being mean as well. I just feel he should have a critique of his own. Keep it honest and fair, but let him know he has room to improve as we all do.
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

Well, his bedside manner leaves something to be desired. There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance....sheesh.
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

Took me a long time to pick away the positive parts of a critique, no matter how harsh and allow the other stuff to float away. We all have lessons to learn and lessons to share. Critique to the point of near attack is most often attributed to insecurity on the part of the advice giver. Peace.....

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Old 01-25-2007, 03:45 PM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

grafx, I have always admired your work and your contributions to this forum.
I can see why you're pixxed off, but I can't agree with a tactic of lowering yourself to his level.
It's HE who has a problem, not you - so don't share it with him.

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

He's that successful in the retouching world, that he uses a free hotmail account for contact
Can anybody else think of a high profile fashion retoucher who uses hotmail?

Think he needs a lesson in looking professional, rather than just thinking he is.
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:35 PM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

Something like this just goes to show that you can please some of the people some of the time and some of the people not at all.

If everyone in this world was exactly alike, then we would have no diversity. Diversity makes life. Life is not boring. Shrug it off and chalk it up to his personal diversity. Just be glad it isn't yours and that you are the bigger soul of the two.

Janet
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

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Originally Posted by byRo
grafx, I have always admired your work and your contributions to this forum.
I can see why you're pixxed off, but I can't agree with a tactic of lowering yourself to his level.
It's HE who has a problem, not you - so don't share it with him.

I actually responded back, by thanking him for his thoughtful critique and telling him to "stay tuned" since the samples on my site are over two years old and I'm currently working on an update. I also went as far to ask him if he would like to see samples of my current work, what style and age group would he like to see.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

A nice consise snarky retort is always nice also.
"That is my latest work for the West Palm Beach Wax Museum. I'm happy with the work, but they keep saying, "More wax, dammit!!!. We're paying you for wax!" Nothing pleases these people."

"I loved your latest album, Mr. Tyler. But I always liked the Stones better." Dream on.

"Chief??? Don't call me Chief, buddy!!! That's Ms. Chief to you."

Wax off.
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:56 AM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

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A nice consise snarky retort is always nice also.
"That is my latest work for the West Palm Beach Wax Museum. I'm happy with the work, but they keep saying, "More wax, dammit!!!. We're paying you for wax!" Nothing pleases these people."

"I loved your latest album, Mr. Tyler. But I always liked the Stones better." Dream on.

"Chief??? Don't call me Chief, buddy!!! That's Ms. Chief to you."

Wax off.
First off "snarky"! LOL My new word for the day, all week it has been persnickidy (sp?)
Second "Wax off"! ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: Unsolicitated Critique

Because of the anonymous nature of the net, people feel they can criticize, belittle, mock or bully at will. You see it everyday..try and blow it off as means spirited people doing what they need to do to feel adequate..
What goes around comes around.

Lasa
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