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Old 12-05-2002, 01:00 PM
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Clare, do a google search on "disable view source" and you'll get a ton of advice (on both sides of the debate on whether this is a good idea or not) - but also how it's done.

Oh yeah - now I realize what you're referring to. New in IE6 (it's not in earlier versions.) I'd try a google search on that as well.

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Old 12-05-2002, 01:16 PM
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Re: disable view source

This post explains the problem pretty well, I think.
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Old 12-05-2002, 01:16 PM
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Protection application

What an interesting thread (as many have noted).

Anyhow, I've been pretty curious, as I've done some of my own web programming and all as well.

I found this site that has an application (seems to work from the samples I've seen so far), but I'm also going to continue my own research.

Anyhow, $20 doesn't seem like a huge amount to "really" protect your site.

http://www.antssoft.com/htmlprotecto...tm?ref=sprinks
Product: HTMLProtector
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Old 12-05-2002, 01:45 PM
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Interesting Jeffrey. It does say that it's Java-based though, so if someone turns off Java, would it still continue to work? In some of my browsing yesterday, I ran across a site that said that all (yes, they said "all") of the HTML protection schemes that are being sold are easily cracked. Yes, it would deter the casual user, but probably not someone who really wants your code/images.

Clare, I found a comment here (in the middle of the page) that says that if you use frames and disable right clicks, then the only source available for downloading is the frame info. This does not prevent someone from getting the info from their history or temp files though.

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Old 12-05-2002, 01:52 PM
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One other thing I just came across. You can disable right click and use a browser window with no menus so they can't do a menu-based view-source. This might work for those times where you create a new window with a large image after someone clicks on a thumbnail. Then, they just close the window to get back to your page (or you have a "close" button in the window). Again it's not foolproof, because everything has to be downloaded to the client-side computer in order for the window to be viewed. But, it's another idea.

I wouldn't want to do this to my whole site b/c it would make navigation a pain in the butt, but I think it would work for pop-up windows showing image enlargements.

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Old 12-05-2002, 02:03 PM
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Clare, got all your security messages when I tried to "right-click", but as Al said, they can still link to your url, and they can still copy your images via "Print Screen" if they want. I imagine getting rid of the "sponging" on your website is Mission #1.


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Old 12-05-2002, 02:10 PM
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hey Clare,

it works just fine in IE, but in Opera it just brings up a slightly different menu, with the option to save still there, just to let you know. however, most people use IE or Netscape so by doing that, you're stopping most of the "petty thieves".

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Old 12-05-2002, 02:28 PM
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I came across this idea when looking at securing images. Don't know if it would deter the really stubborn theives but it may be worth a try

http://suggestafix.com/articles/webm...cure-image.htm
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Old 12-05-2002, 02:28 PM
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Jeanie
Thanks for the links - This is tommorrows job!

CJ
Yeah as bigAl says you can still get them through the source but hopeful but tommorrow night I will have this sorted.

David
I haven't found a way round Opera yet. I normally use opera to access the internet so I checked that out earlier and found the same thing. If I find a way round this I will post it.

Thanks to all for the heads up, I think we all need to impliment security when we make web sites. This thread has certainly got some good info in it, thanks to all the input - it's like having 1000 pairs of eye's on a mission!

I have also found that my server will allow .htaccess, so that is good news.

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Old 12-05-2002, 02:51 PM
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Sandra, That is the same technique that Jeffrey posted about from the NAPP website. And, I was just thinking that this would be a good way around Clare's concern about the IE icons popping up whenever you run the mouse over an image. If you use the "transparent table" method, then even if they can save, it will only the a 1x1 transparent GIF.

Of course, that doesn't stop someone from taking a screenshot if they want it. Or reading the source to find the actual image filename. Just another trick to add.

If you haven't already found it, check out
this site. I haven't had time to play with it yet, but if you can figure out what he did (and obviously some people have), it might be helpful. So far I've discovered that he disabled right clicks, used frames and the transparent table (GIF).

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