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    By Doug Nelson (doug) on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 08:42 am:

    Here you can chat with other visitors about non-photo and non-website stuff. As long as you play nice, any discussion topic is welcome.

    By paulette conlan on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 07:21 pm:

    Okay-let's talk non-photo.I play golf because it gets me away from my computer and because there are some good photo opportunities.My friends tolerate me on the golf course because they like the pictures I take of them. Actually I find that the more "mouse work" I do the better my eye-hand coordination is getting.Anyway,I want to mention a very good magazine that I pick up each month at Barnes&Noble.It comes from the UK and it's entitled "What Digital Camera". It has alot of very good feature articles each month and also has a website from which you can download the pictures to work along.I've seen the Photoshop magazine in class but haven't decided yet if it's still more than I need. I am enjoying the book by Katrin Eismann. It's well worth the cost I think.I also like to shop for unique picture frames. What I do quite alot is get the frame and then figure out what I want to put in it.Till next time. PC

    By Doug Nelson (doug) on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 08:09 pm:

    "A good walk spoiled"

    By Ed Ladendorf (ed) on Monday, June 04, 2001 - 10:07 am:

    Golfers cheat! I shot 18 holes one time only, and had a score somewhere around 600. Nobody was even close to me, but everyone tried to convince me that I didn't win . The people at the bowling alleys sure aren't like that!

    By Doug Nelson (doug) on Monday, June 04, 2001 - 10:41 am:

    600, wow! Even the pros don't get scores that high

    By paulette conlan on Monday, June 04, 2001 - 11:03 am:

    I have become very suspect about the honesty of golfers.What surprises me is how important having a low handicap is to so many people.Well in fairness to golfers, I guess we all need something that we get our self esteem from.Personally I get greater enjoyment from creating a nice portrait of someone. Since my friends and I are in our mid 50's digital wrinkle removal has become a big thing with me.I take alot of candids that I attempt to create studio type portraits with.PC

    By Paulette Conlan on Monday, June 04, 2001 - 11:23 am:

    Forgot to add on to my previous message. I have Paint Shop Pro7 which I bought awhile back before I had PS6. I though it would be easier to learn than Illustrator for the very few drawing things I do. Now that PS6 has shapes I find that I'm not using it at all. There was also a cute feature in it that made repeatable drawings( tub files I believe). Is it worth taking the time to learn or would I just get confused? Thanks

    By Sharon Brunson on Monday, June 04, 2001 - 11:39 am:

    Paulette, I don't know about PSP, but I had Corel PhotoPaint9 first and I still keep it on my system for the few things it does that PS6 doesn't. But I do get confused if I try to switch back and forth. I just save PP9 for special needs. I didn't have PP9 very long before I got Photoshop so I wasn't completely comfortable with it. Now I am not completely comfortable with either! LOL

    By Ziggy (ziggy) on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 06:02 pm:

    Hi all,
    Just to apologise for not saying thank you to everyone that did the challenge "Ziggy's Mum". I think everyone's effort has been truly awesome...I got probs at the moment .....My old dog (17) had to be put to sleep yesterday after a short but serious (obviously!) illness. So basically I'm licking my wounds at present but I will be back to have a go at the new restoration challenge.......So, please don't think I'm being rude!


    By Ed Ladendorf (ed) on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 07:22 am:


    I don't think "thank you's" are necessary, or expected. I'm sure everyone here welcomed the opportunity to work on the photo and maybe improve their skills, or at least have the chance to help others by explaining how it was done.

    Sorry to hear about your loss. I sometimes wonder why people have pets, knowing how attached we can get. I have also lost a few in the past, and at the present time, have another which I am very attached to.


    By ziggy on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 05:16 am:

    If it hadn't been of Mum I wouldn't have felt obliged, so to speak......Just feels such a personal 'thing' in this case! My neice was amazed....Her baby girl could be that photo! See, nothing is lost eh? Thanks for your condolences....We set ourselves up for heartache, especially if like me you love them like children....They don't have the life span. I'll bounce back, it's only a matter of time, I too have lost many over the years....Still doesn't make the 'void' they leave any easier to fill!

    By Chris Hardman on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 01:14 pm:

    Can any US people on the site tell me whether the road system of the USA is available on CD Rom. We have the UK mapped on disc so I presume it must be likewise in the states although obviously on several CD's given the size of the country.My brothers going to do a grand tour of the US and thought it would be usefull for route planning.


    By Amanda K. Jones on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 02:58 pm:

    Hi Chris,

    I'm not sure if this is exactly what you want but Rand McNally has something called the StreetFinder Deluxe available for $49.95 US dollars. You can check it out here.

    If for some reason that link doesn't work just go directly to their site at and you should be able to find it there somewhere. I think it's catalog #0-528-52192-6.

    Sounds like a fun trip!


    By Chris Hardman on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 05:48 am:


    Thanks for the info, the plan is to fly to the west coast buy a vehicle of some sort and wander back to the east then either sell or send it back to the UK. There's no fixed itinerary just stick to the highways and 'back' roads avoiding motorways and major trunk routes 'interstates' in the US I think.


    By Ed Ladendorf on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 08:39 am:


    I hope you enjoy your trip. I've been wondering, so now I'll ask. Is that Chris as in Christopher, or Christine, or something else altogether? Just curious. You can blame DJ for my curiosity .


    By Chris Hardman on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 08:57 am:

    I'm a he with all the usual male traits, charm, kindness, patience with the opposite sex etc !
    It's my brothers idea but I may join him for part of it, I'm interested in naval vessels and you people are much better at preserving them than we are, so I'll try to see some of them.


    By DJ Dubovsky on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 10:12 am:

    Thanks alot Ed. Boy I can see I'm going to take some flak for my unintentional deception. Ha Ha

    If you'll be out west, there is a Naval base in San Deigo. You might check that out. But I suppose if you're interested in Navel vessels you probably know where to find them better than I do. I envy you your adventure. I bet it will be the trip of a life time. Good luck and safe traveling.


    By Alan Rubin on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 09:44 pm:


    You might want to consider putting a low cost GPS in the car. It is a great way to find your way around. I'm from NYC, but rural and small town America is full of wonderful experiences and surprises.

    Staying off the major highways is the way to see our county. However, and I hope that I do not insult those from the Midwest, that is the part of the country to use the major highways so that you can move on to new scenery in the shortest possible time.

    Best of luck,


    By Chris Hardman on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 07:31 am:


    I have a personal GPS device which I use as a back up when in the hills especially since Clinton ordered the ‘position error’ on GPS transmissions removed. It’s difficult to get lost on roads in the UK we are a small island roughly 800 miles long but looking at my old Rand McNally that’s not the case in the US. However having been an avid watcher of Ward Bond in ‘Wagon Train’ in the fifties I realise you have to watch out for the river crossings !


    By kathleen on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 12:59 pm:

    when are you leaving? i hope not until septmeber, it's too hot everywhere right now. i hope you'll find as much adventure as good ole ward bond did. have you been here before?

    i'm sure either coast has more to offer maritimely, but there is a tourable wwII battleship (the Alabama) in Mobile Bay. but i expect it's more ancient stuff you're after.

    don't know the scope of your interests, but the mississippi river has much history, mystery, character and mystique, @ least the parts i am familiar with, memphis to new orleans. i suspect best experienced IN it; no tug boat will take me on. so far. it is just as brown as latte, however. deep and wide.

    keep us posted so we can enjoy vicariously.

    By paulette conlan on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 02:39 pm:

    If you get the New York City there's the aircraft carrier "The Interpid" which is permanently docked in the Hudson River and is fascinating to tour. Other good places to check out naval vessels on the east coast would be Annapolis, Maryland where the naval academy is and Mystic,Connectict which has a submarine base.We're living in Florida now and it seems like the only naval vessels down this way are the sunken Spanish galleons.
    Good luck with your trip and learning to drive on the "wrong side of the road". Be careful of all of the "right turns on red" and the only thing I can say about driving in Florida is that I would take midtown Manhattan driving over Florida driving anyday! Paulette

    By DJ Dubovsky on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 05:19 pm:

    I agree with you Paulette. Where do we get these drivers down here? I think they all wrote their own rules of the road. Where are you at in Florida? I'm here in the Boca Raton area.
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    By Alan Rubin on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 08:42 pm:


    If you get ot NYC, the Intrepid is a wonderful ship to visit. It is on the Hudson River at about 55th street. Further down towards the lower tip of Manhattan is a park that runs from about Chambers Street until Battery Park. The views of the harbor and NJ are just wonderful. If you have time, try to find some walking tours of lower Manhattan. As a Brit, you will learn much about your country's effect upon our history in the area.

    My wife and I are planning to tour Great Britian once we retire. I addition to several trips to London, I've enjoyed touring Cornwall and the Coswal area.

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      By Chris Hardman on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 03:43 am:


      I'm assuming the Intrepid is the aircraft carrier which survived very severe attacks in the Pacific.
      Most US preserved vessels have volumes of internet support material so I don't think working out an itinerary should be a problem but of course I'm riding shotgun! I'm in northern England near Preston.

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        By Paulette Conlan on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 04:04 pm:

        Martin County.Isn't there a photographic gallery in Delray that offers classes and lectures. Thought I saw something in the Palm Beach Post.
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        • #5
          Hi Paulette,

          Wow, you're not far from me at all. I never heard about the photographic gallery in Delray. If you find out something on it, let me know.



          • #6
            steel worker

            Hi Ed,

            I noticed that you are a retired steel worker. I spent six years in Bethlehem, Pa getting my BS and MS in Metallurgical Engineering. After that, I logged ten years in the industry, both in production and applied R&D.

            In my senior year I had a Practice Option course where eight of us worked three days as week in various departments throughout the mill. It was a great experience, but I had to pay for the privilege of workings there.

            The most frightening experience for me was when we were taking thermocouple readings of the molten steel as it was flowing from a tapped blast furnace. We were correlating temperature and chemistry. I was feeling nervous, but safe, in my asbestos suit when there was a tremendous surge of heat behind me. I thought that something dangerous was happening, but it was the much hotter slag running in the channel behind me.

            I also got to know many of the people of Bethlehem. This was not the norm as they were not crazy about the students when I was there in the 50’s, a few years after a strike. I played soccer for Lehigh and many of the local semi-pro players would practice with us. They all worked in the mill and it was hard for them to be able to practice as a unit.

            I ended up playing three seasons with them as a goalie and I was accepted into their social club.

            I also worked two summers in a commercial heat-treating plan in Newark, NJ. Both experiences were wonderful in that I got to know the human side of the work place.

            What was your steel mill experience, if I’m not being too nosey?



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