Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Bad studio rescue

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Bad studio rescue

    Hi All,

    This is my last post of the week, as per rules I took a photo of my wife in my own studio - which I had just set up. As per my lack of experience in this area it didnt come out too great - I show below the before which is totally uncropped.

    The after is part photo - part art - any comments on improvements would be appreciated. Especially on how to get a clean skin texture without blurring away to death.


    Before



    After


    Cheers

    Peter

  • #2
    Posting rules

    Hi,

    Under the DONT section on the guidlines for posting for this forum is says

    DONT

    "flood the forum with images. No one is going to respond if you upload 20 images in one day. 1 or 2 images a week is probably a good number. This will allow everyone to see your work and make detailed comments before you post another image"

    Hope this clears it up

    Peter

    Comment


    • #3
      photomauler is correct...it's not so much a rule as a suggestion. It's designed to keep the forum from being spammed with images by one user before anyone gets the chance to respond. The main thing is to try and contribute comments on other's images so that they will return the favor on your own threads...as long as everyone tries to contribute at least a little, I doubt anyone would mind if a member post 4 or 5 images in a week.

      Peter - ...On to the image! I'll probably write more later but I am about to fall over from exhaustion from a very long day. The extraction of your wife from the image is extremely well done (would love to see a detail.)...the hair had to have taken some time!

      The thing that sticks out as being strange is the lighting. It seems like her face should have much deeper shadows...a greater level of "chiaroscuro" to use an art term.

      The flowers are also a bit strange. There is an odd relationship between the figure in the dark robe, sitting in front of what appears to be a church window, and the vase of flowers. The flowers seem out of place...it's like I expect a different object to be there given the solemn nature of the image.

      By the way, any symbolism to this image? The flowers, window...figure in black, etc... It's an interesting image and certainly has an air of mystery to it.

      Comment


      • #4
        Peter,

        Great job on the composite. Like Greg said, the lighting. With all that window light the hair and edge of the skin would have a glow from behind whether there was an additional light source from in front of her or not. Shading the left side of objects (nose, lips, check, between the nose and the cheek on the lit side, etc.)to simulate light coming from another window to our right and giving the hair highlights from light coming from behind, would I think, tie it all together.

        Great job on richening up the contrast and saturation, I think the background needs a boost to match your wife. Think in terms of matching the moods.

        Hope this helps, Roger

        Comment


        • #5
          I think you did an amazing rescue by picking that background and blending it in. Looks great.

          Now for some detail.

          1. I am going to disagree with the others about the lighting. Because you seem to have a cross between painting and photo, and because the setting has a monastic feel, it makes sense to borrow an old-style painting practice of playing down source lighting (or ignoring it) and throwing a light from the front that would not actually be there. IOW, I think this enhances the painting part of the feel.

          2. Distractions. The wires coming out of the top of her head are out of place for the feel you have there. There is a faint shape in the lower right that I kept staring at. The tie thingy at her throat is distracting.

          3. You asked about how to smooth the skin, and I only had time for a few quick tests. Most promising was a layer with smart blur, set to partial opacity over the original. I also used a mask so the eyes were not smart blurred. The result was positive, but it left a bad stepping effect around the fringe of the face. But this might not happen on the original that doesn't have jpeg blocks.

          4. It might look nice if you added slight painterly effects to the flowers, or in some other way made them a tad less photographic. This could go with the softer feel around the window, and add to the photo/painting feel.

          Comment


          • #6
            I just had time for a few more quick tests.

            There is a plugin that comes with PhotoDeluxe Business Edition called Eye Fidelity Tools Limited Edition. File name is Dvp_le.8bf. I got this bundled with a printer, and moved it over to Photoshop.

            Anyway, this plugin has three filters, one of which is Jpeg Clean Up. Basically it does smart blurring, but it's smarter than Adobe's Smart Blur. I just tried it and it was like magic in removing the blotchyness from the skin.

            If you are lucky enough to have PhotoDeluxe Business Edition, give it a try.

            Comment


            • #7
              HI Peter,
              I really like the new bcakground, if you're worried about the lighting I sometimes use a filter to add some directional light. It may be of use to you.
              Here's the link

              Comment


              • #8
                Peter:

                Very nice. When I look at an image first - I don't look at technical aspects at all. Technical errors leap out at you. Most of them can be corrected in PhotoShop anyway. When I look at a photo, I look at the overall artistic vision - the impact and the mood / sense of place. These are the things that are so much more difficult to correct for.

                I love this photo. The sense of time and place in it are outstanding - I looked at the "after" shot first, and I never suspected that the background was faked in - never occured to me for a second - so I am going to ignore specifics of the lighting - this has been discussed here already, and for my part - the lighting works. It looks like studio lighting - yes - but it looks like studio lights set up in a monastery / church. This photo is strongly rooted in the environment in which you have placed it, and I applaud your sense of the "rightness" of the setting.

                I usually only comment on techical aspects of photos if I think the phot is damaged by a technical oversight. As I say, the artistic vision is much more important to me. So my only technical comment is to do something with the corner / moulding/ whatever growing out of the model's head. That is a dead simple retouch and would make this photo sing.

                Is this a graduation picture from a semenary school?

                Regards
                Toad

                Comment

                Related Topics

                Collapse

                • peterdove
                  Mother and Daughter
                  by peterdove
                  Hi,

                  Just retouched a photo of my wife and her mother. Just wanted to see if anyone could add anything to it. I would consider myself an advanced user of photoshop - so I should be able to follow any intrsuctions posted


                  Before

                  ...
                  06-18-2003, 06:27 AM
                • retouch26
                  what is wrong with this image
                  by retouch26
                  Hello folks at retouch pro
                  Here are two images shot in studio. If you notice to the left in their hair the pixels don’t look clear its looking dirty. You can see the similar dirty looks in other shadow areas like neck. When I process the image increasing the exposure slider in camera raw the...
                  04-17-2015, 11:19 PM
                • Mike Kalcevic
                  Help with light on hair!!!
                  by Mike Kalcevic
                  I was hired to do business portraits for a local company's website. The finals that will be displayed will only be about wallet size. The others that I did went perfectly, until this one. for the bluish background, I had a light on a boom up close to their ceiling (which was many 7.5 feet high)....
                  09-30-2008, 06:35 PM
                • Tube
                  New Image i shot and retouched
                  by Tube
                  Hi

                  I was wondering what anyone thought of this image i shot. I have done some mild retouching, but more dodging and burning. The more subtle the better i think. Comments most welcome.

                  Regards

                  Tube

                  Cell: +44 (0) 7818435582...
                  08-18-2004, 10:31 AM
                • Live the Lie
                  A whole lot of time and trouble
                  by Live the Lie
                  This is my first thread, so I think this is the right place and everything is posted right. If not I will update it.

                  We all know that it takes a combination of a good photographer and retoucher to make great images. Also there are other people like a MUA, Stylist, and other people contribute...
                  05-27-2008, 03:47 PM
                Working...
                X