Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Pen Tool

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Pen Tool

    Hi Guys
    Could someone help to advise me on how I can make a 'clean' cut out of this car to put on another image, when I use the pen tool the results are questionable at very best, I cannot see where I am placing the selection due to the lightness of the selection line, help much appreciated.
    Regards
    Lofty
    Attached Files

  • #2
    Re: Pen Tool

    Your choice of Pen tool seem an ideal choice for this subject.

    You may find it helpful in seeing where to place your points by duplicating the image and viewing the channels palette while working with the pen tool you can switch between channels selecting the best one for the clearest view where you are working. If needed you could alter the image using Curves or Levels on the dup to allow a better view.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Pen Tool

      Well, Adobe is busy thinking about their new business model instead of improving basic tools ... I tried to find the way how to change the color of this path while working but I wasn't succesful. Maybe it is my fault, who knows?

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Pen Tool

        Thanks for your replies, I will certainly try the advise, not sure what to do after if this does not work, I might have to give up.
        Lofty

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Pen Tool

          As much as I hate to admit this I have given up!!!!!

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Pen Tool

            Sorry to hear that Lofty. I have to say that of all the tools in PS this is the one that I find needs lots of time and practice to get right and I still have difficulty with at times.

            An alternative that may work for you is to use the quick selection tool to select the car. It will likely pick up more information than you want but if you then copy to a new layer you can start again selecting the bits you do not want to appear.

            creativeretouch, its certainly not just you AFAIK there is no way to actually change the path colour while working. Searching for the answer reveals many asking for this facility. What a shame Adobe could not have given us the option to work in the foregroung/background colours - still maybe CS6 or 7 or 8

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Pen Tool

              That's odd. I see no problem; the pen tool works really well on this photo, doesn't take much time and the path is to me clearly visible when constructing the path (remember to zoom in!). Maybe I'm not understanding what the problem is?

              After the path is complete, I would use it as a vector mask and put a solid color background behind it (similar to what you intend to use it on) do find where it needs improving.

              Untitled-2.png

              As with all Photoshop's tools has the best visibility in dark or light areas, and becomes harder to spot in the middle grays, but it's not a problem here...

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Pen Tool

                Very nice example Chain, but you forgot the windows

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Pen Tool

                  the path color can't be changed according to this;
                  http://forums.adobe.com/message/2635636

                  BUT you could either-

                  a- invert the image first before cutting it out
                  or
                  b- make an adjustment layer that increases the contrast in the whole image...making the transitions easier to see

                  HTH

                  - Nancy

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Pen Tool

                    Hi Guys,
                    Chain, that is a great selection, can you forward me a quick e-mail on exactly how you got it so concise? (Like how fare you zoomed in etc etc)
                    It would be highly appreciated.
                    Lofty.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Pen Tool

                      I zoomed in to 2-400%. Klick and drag to create a point (then hold alt to 'break' it if it is a corner). Click and drag where I want the next point. Click and drag where I want the next point. Click and drag where I want the next point. Click and drag where I want the next point.... You get the idea

                      One "curve" on the car requires about two points (see the image I uploaded to get an idea of where to place the points). Each handle stretch roughly 1/3 of the way to the next point (as a rule of thumb).

                      After making the entire path, I put it on a white background and deselected the mask (in the layers panel) so that I could see the result. If the edge was a bit off in places (e.g. 1 px of background showing), then I took the white selection tool and moved the points in a bit (use the arrow keys).

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Pen Tool

                        http://www.retouchpro.com/tutorials/pentool/index.html

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: Pen Tool

                          That tutorial tells you to click to make corner points, then go back to refine it into a curve. Useful to know you can do that, but to me that seems very slow as you could instead click-drag when creating each point to make it curved immediately. That would also give a lot fewer points to worry about... To select the frame in that tutorial i would have used min. 4 points - maybe up to 8 max if it was a bit irregular.

                          Other then that the tutorial was ok, and probably worth a try for beginners.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: Pen Tool

                            Originally posted by Lofty1967 View Post
                            Hi Guys
                            Could someone help to advise me on how I can make a 'clean' cut out of this car to put on another image, when I use the pen tool the results are questionable at very best, I cannot see where I am placing the selection due to the lightness of the selection line, help much appreciated.
                            Regards
                            Lofty
                            Photoshop Preferences>Performance>Advanced Settings

                            Check off the box "Anti-alias Guides and Paths"

                            Your lasso and pen tool will be (more) normal.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: Pen Tool

                              Originally posted by Chain View Post
                              That tutorial tells you to click to make corner points, then go back to refine it into a curve. Useful to know you can do that, but to me that seems very slow as you could instead click-drag when creating each point to make it curved immediately. That would also give a lot fewer points to worry about... To select the frame in that tutorial i would have used min. 4 points - maybe up to 8 max if it was a bit irregular.

                              Other then that the tutorial was ok, and probably worth a try for beginners.
                              I agree, the oval in the tutorial should only take 4 points.

                              To the original poster, a vector mask from a path is the way to go, it's endlessly ajustable.

                              Comment

                              Related Topics

                              Collapse

                              • One4UAll
                                Is learning the pen tool necessary?
                                by One4UAll
                                I'm a lower-intermediate PS user. I'm reading Katrin Eismann's "PS Masking & Compositing," & have come to the chapter on the pen tool. My experience with the pen tool has told me to avoid it, if at all possible.

                                All I'm doing, right now, is optimizing my images, but...
                                01-06-2008, 12:04 PM
                              • superkoax
                                pen tool help
                                by superkoax
                                I've just started to experience the pen tools inner strength...But, I'm the kind of guy who needs to visualize it's full pontential...Is there any good tutorials that shows the pen tools full capasity?

                                Please do reply if you know!

                                Cheers

                                Gerry
                                05-24-2007, 06:37 AM
                              • Canna W
                                Pen Tool. How to move anchor points.
                                by Canna W
                                I am struggling to learn the pen tool. I am currently working with a shape layer.

                                In case it might help, I have created a basic shape using a document 284x284 pixels, with the grid at the default setting. At this stage I have 2 questions....

                                1) How do I show...
                                10-09-2011, 02:47 AM
                              • jeaniesa
                                Pen tool vs. lasso tool?
                                by jeaniesa
                                In another thread, Mig mentions using the pen tool to create a path. That got me wondering, what is the benefit of using the pen tool to create a path (and then turning it into a selection) over using the lasso tool to create a selection? Or is this another case of using different techniques to get...
                                06-06-2002, 11:13 PM
                              • beefhitler
                                Regarding Pen Tool vs Polygonal Lasso Tool
                                by beefhitler
                                So, I have noticed a lot of product and automobile retouchers use the Pen Tool more vs the Polygon Lasso Tool for making selections/masking etc. But I have also seen a lot of Photo Compositers use the Polygonal Lasso Tool more than any of the other alternatives while selecting sharp edges of an object...
                                02-19-2017, 10:05 PM
                              Working...
                              X