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    Hi Everyone!

    Wondering the best way to go about cleaning up these white scratches, etc. I've tried the noise filter define selective, but it didn't help so much, painting over with the brush tool, the clone stamp, etc. It ended up looking very blotchy and I'm starting again from this point.

    I plan to soften the skin with the gaussian blur but should I first get rid of the blotches?

    I will appreciate any suggestions,

    Diane
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    Originally posted by dipech
    Hi Everyone!

    Wondering the best way to go about cleaning up these white scratches, etc. I've tried the noise filter define selective, but it didn't help so much, painting over with the brush tool, the clone stamp, etc. It ended up looking very blotchy and I'm starting again from this point.

    I plan to soften the skin with the gaussian blur but should I first get rid of the blotches?

    I will appreciate any suggestions,

    Diane
    Real quick and dirty fixing with the healing brush. From there I would take the clone brush and clean up the edges.

    Healing brush works really well with this type of damage because it blends better than the clone brush.

    - Noel
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    • #3
      Thanks, Noel!

      I'd assumed the damage needed something stronger than the healing brush, but you were right...

      Best regards,
      Diane

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      • #4
        This is a little trick I use to speed things along. It doesn't finish the job, but it breaks the back of the problem:
        1. Duplicate the bg image
        2. Run D/S on duplicate until spots are completely gone. Use high threshold, and don't worry about how the rest of the image looks
        3. Rename the bg layer so you can move it
        4. Move bg layer on top of the D/S layer
        5. Set blending mode of bg layer to Darken
        6. Apply a layer mask to the D/S layer to restore detail to the non-spotty areas
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        • #5
          Have you checked out this tutorial?
          You've got some work cut out for you though, with that hair!
          http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=63

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          • #6
            Thanks, Doug, this looks like a great little trick...

            Best regards,
            Diane


            PS. Below I'm posting the actual original for anyone who is interested. I desaturated the color which got rid of the discoloration and some of the stains. Then I quick masked the background and used a gray-white marquis to fill in a new background. I also did some levels adjustments...
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            • #7
              Hi Diane!

              for the "cleaning up these white scratches" I did the following:
              • Duplicated the Background.
              • Run Filter>Other>Minimum (Radius=2).
              • Run Filter>Noise>D&S (adjusting Radius and Treshold until satisfied with the result).... (following part of Doug's great Tip!).
              • Added some noise.
              • Created a Layer Mask (Hide All).
              • Used a soft white brush to paint on the black mask for correcting the scratches.


              Vikki,
              thanks for an excellent Tutorial!!
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              Last edited by Flora; 02-27-2004, 07:58 AM.

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              • #8
                Very nice Flora!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Flora
                  Hi Diane!

                  for the "cleaning up these white scratches" I did the following:
                  • Duplicated the Background.
                  • Run Filter>Other>Minimum (Radius=2).
                  • Run Filter>Noise>D&S (adjusting Radius and Treshold until satisfied with the result).... (following part of Doug's great Tip!).
                  • Added some noise.
                  • Created a Layer Mask (Hide All).
                  • Used a soft white brush to paint on the black mask for correcting the scratches.


                  Vikki,
                  thanks for an excellent Tutorial!!
                  Wow!! Excellent job! If people can't learn something around here, it's their own fault!

                  Ed

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                  • #10
                    Flora,

                    Beautiful work, as always. Glad you're having a bit more time to spend at RP - it helps us all to see your work.

                    Originally posted by Ed_L
                    If people can't learn something around here, it's their own fault!
                    You got that right, Ed! Doug's tip can really cut down the time involved, and Vikki's tutorial can help lots of newbies (and not-so-newbies) learn the power of layer masks, and beautiful work by Flora gives us all a goal to work towards.

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                    • #11
                      Vicki,

                      Thanks very much for the link to your tutorial. It is great! Layer masks was a subject I thought I didn't understand so well but now I bet I'll be using them quite alot! Is it easier than quick-masking to change the background with the marquis tool?

                      Flora,

                      I am speechless how beautiful your version came out!!!

                      When you added some noise, which choice did you select?

                      I am also curious what else you did after the layer mask to get the hair to look so good and to smooth the skin. Was it the gaussian blur to soften the skin?

                      I will have to go back and redo the hair of course, but here is where I am with it right now, after following your steps...

                      Thank you so very much!!
                      Diane


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                      • #12
                        Hi everybody,

                        thank you so much for such a great, great feedback!!!!

                        Due to big changes in my life (we will be moving to a place which is being restored right now), I'll have to live under unoccupied bridges for the next year and a half or so ... In these circumstances, it won't always be easy to organize an Internet connection ... but I'll try my very best .... Jokes aside, until our new place will be ready for us to move in, we'll be travelling a lot sooo .... please....bear with my 'unreliable presence' a bit longer ....

                        Diane,

                        something strange happened .... I got an e-mail notification for your reply to the post, but when I logged on RP to read it .... well...it wasn't there so I couldn't see your latest version of your picture!

                        Anyway, here are the steps I took working on your picture:
                        • Duplicated the Background.

                        • Loosely selected and feathered the faded area, Ctrl + J copied it on its own Layer, set the Blending to Multiply (Opacity 25/30%), adjusted Hue&Saturation to correct the colour. (I didn't desaturate).

                        • Took care of the scratches as explained in my previous post.

                        • To fix the hair, I used Healing Brush, Clone and Smudge Tool .

                        • To clean up, smoothen and enhancing the skin, I used soft Gaussian Blur (adding some noise for texture), created new Layers (Blendings: Lighten, Darken, Soft Light and Overlay) on which I painted black, white or sampled colours from surrounding areas (always using soft brushes adjusting their Opacity).

                        • Changed and slightly blurred the Background.

                        • Slightly colorized the whole picture.

                        • Slightly Sharpened the boy.


                        Don't hesitate to contact me if you have other questions .... I'll get back to you as soon as I can ....


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                        • #13
                          Hi Flora!

                          Maybe we should all chip in for a wireless device for you so you can connect from anywhere, since your help is so invaluable!! Hope that the construction/renovating goes smoothly and that you enjoy all the traveling!

                          I had briefly posted another version last night but then took it down after seeing more probs with it.. That's probably why you got that email and then didn't see anything...

                          So here is my latest version, after following your notes above the best I could.. I didn't quite understand the part about painting black or white on the skin. Is it that you sometimes used black or white on the blotches instead of the surrounding color? I will have to practice more on this as it took so much time to get to this point

                          Thank you so much for all your help!
                          Diane

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                          • #14
                            Hi Everyone,

                            I wasn't quite satisfied how my last version came out and finally did it again, from the beginning this time.

                            I was not able to get so far selecting the discolored background and then adjusting the hue to match the other part. Instead I resorted to converting it to a grayscale and then later changed it back to RGB and added the hue.

                            Diane
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                            • #15
                              Hi Diane,

                              Originally posted by dipech
                              ....Maybe we should all chip in for a wireless device for you so you can connect from anywhere, since your help is so invaluable!!
                              ....Thank you so much!!!!

                              I think you did a wonderful job with this picture!!!!

                              I'd just increase the lights/shadows contrast on the boy's face/cheeks which, in my opinion, looks just a tiny bit flat....but it could be my monitor ....

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