Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Large cloning from small source

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Large cloning from small source

    I often find myself having to clone big areas from a small area, sometimes a very small area. There must be something in the ps battery to deal with this (I use cs2), but I need to know what it is before I can check up the relevant tutorials. I've never used the pattern tool - maybe something like this is the way forward?

    Help would be much appreciated

  • #2
    Re: Large cloning from small source

    A pattern might be useful for things such as skin, but not so much when objects, such as blades of grass etc. are needed because of the repeat patterns that develop. Cloning can be very tedious and take lots of patience.

    There are some techniques to cloning that I find useful and one of my favorites is to clone in the Vanishing Point filter. This gives you the advantage of being able to see your clone brush "loaded" with the source of the clone. There is no need to lay out a perspective grid (unless you need perspective), just define the grid using the four corners of the image (ie. just a flat rectangle).

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Large cloning from small source

      Hi Swampy,

      Good grief. I didn't expect that! It sounds amazing.

      I will have a go later today and get back to you (or however long it takes me to get it right.)

      Thank you so much.

      Caroline

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Large cloning from small source

        I think you're on the right track with the pattern maker. What I've done is generate and save two or three different patterns (the pattern maker randomizes the pattern each time you regenerate plus you can tweak the pattern controls). Then just switch between the different patterns while cloning or healing and it gives a fairly random appearance. Don't forget the patch tool with a pattern--that's the easiest way of them all to quickly fill in an area with a pattern.

        Swampy's suggestion on the vanishing point tool is good too assuming the source pattern isn't too small. However, if your source sample is really small, you really need to use the pattern maker as described above. (I wish Adobe would do the brush preview thing for the standard clone and heal.)

        Bart

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Large cloning from small source

          Swampy,

          I've been practising cloning - using the vanishing point tool - & I see why you like it! Isn't it nice to be able to see where you are picking up from....

          My one wish with this filter is that when I make a bad mistake, I would like to go back a step, or erase, and there doesn't seem any option for this (probably because it's a filter.) I wondered how you get round it? With complex cloning I guess you save what you have done already in the filter, leave it, then fix your mistake in the main ps screen, then go back into the filter to continue? Or is there an easier option?

          Bart,

          Many thanks for those suggestions. I am still knee deep in the Vanishing Point Filter (quite a lot to learn), but the next thing on my list will be to follow up your suggestions. In the next week or so I will come back to let you know how I get on. Using a variety of pattern variations sounds a good way of tackling the problem of a very small sourcing area.

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Large cloning from small source

            Canna...

            I think you are allowed one undo in the filter normally, but there is a way you can get more undos while in the Vanishing Point filter.

            You have to edit your keyboard shortcuts. Edit->Keyboard Sortcuts. Flip open the "Edit" folder. Normally "Undo" is COMMAND+Z (Mac). Change that to something like OPTION+COMMAND+Z. Now change the "Step Backwards" short cut to COMMAND+Z.

            Now you will have as many "un-dos as you have memory for. I've got 2.5gigs of ram so I never have a problem doing 10 or 20 undos. Never had need for any more than that, but that should help.

            I've posted a screen capture of the place where you make the changes.
            Attached Files

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Large cloning from small source

              It probably won't help in this example, but this seems like a good point to mention that Photoshop CS3 has the new Clone Palette, which allow clone source scaling and rotation. Use Overlay mode to preview what you'll be cloning (a different method from the VP visible cloning brush, but effective in its own way).
              Learn by teaching
              Take responsibility for learning

              Comment

              Related Topics

              Collapse

              • Flashtones
                Patterns and Pattern Stamp Tool?
                by Flashtones
                These are functions I almost never use. Wondering what I might be missing out on.

                Anybody putting them to good use? In what ways?
                05-13-2011, 06:04 AM
              • reimerron
                Retouching lawns
                by reimerron
                I am new to this forum, so I hope I am approaching my request for help properly. This opportunity to get help with a problem I have spent days trying to solve is really appreciated and I want to make sure I comply with the submission protocol. My image is less than 100k (original is 37 Mb Tiff), but...
                11-16-2003, 10:22 AM
              • BadBoy House
                Clone Tool - Aligned tickbox question
                by BadBoy House
                In my Photoshop CS2 book there's a Q&A section at the end of each chapter.

                Can anyone advise on the answer to this question:-

                The Aligned checkbox for the pattern Stamp tool in the Options Bar ensures that:

                a - all areas painted with the tool are continuations...
                11-12-2007, 08:44 AM
              • Eigil Skovgaard
                Repeated pattern from cloning
                by Eigil Skovgaard
                "The Garbage Wizard found 13 incidents of 1 repeated pattern in your image - do you want the wizard to randomize the 12 of them?"

                - or something like that.

                Is anybody aware of the existense of such a great software that can scan an image and mark every repetition,...
                12-22-2015, 12:22 PM
              • Andrew5437
                how to seamless floor pattern
                by Andrew5437
                Hi community and gurus,

                I want to retouch an image making the floor seamless as there is a joint patch on the wooden floor visible in the attaches seamless picture for your reference. I have also attached an original image as well. I need to to know only the technique by which it can...
                05-31-2017, 12:43 PM
              Working...
              X