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    Hello All,

    Please can someone critique on this restoration, the middle and the right is the restored version, I am not happy with it, but would be glad with an honest opinion even bad ones.

    your feedback will be much appreciated.

    thanks in advance guys.


    regards


    helen


    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/...09ef9296_o.jpg
    Last edited by sergio2263; 11-01-2008, 08:15 AM.

  • #2
    Re: your critique on restoration please

    Hi,

    I tried to get a little more detail in the face and also by darkening the background.
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    • #3
      Re: your critique on restoration please

      Helen,
      I think it looks very representative of the images of that day. Her face is a bit pale, but sometimes that is how they were done. So, maybe it's just personal taste. I would like to see her face detail a bit more. It may take a little artistic touch to bring it out.
      Otherwise, a good job and I'm sure it will make someone happy.

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      • #4
        Re: your critique on restoration please

        Originally posted by BillFrey View Post
        Hi,

        I tried to get a little more detail in the face and also by darkening the background.

        Thanks very much Bill for your time and effort, it is much appreciated, your version looks better, I shall work a bit more on mine.


        regards



        helen

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        • #5
          Re: your critique on restoration please

          Originally posted by TommyO View Post
          Helen,
          I think it looks very representative of the images of that day. Her face is a bit pale, but sometimes that is how they were done. So, maybe it's just personal taste. I would like to see her face detail a bit more. It may take a little artistic touch to bring it out.
          Otherwise, a good job and I'm sure it will make someone happy.
          Hi TommyO,

          many thanks for your reply much appreciated, she is quite a pale lady, well I went by the photo of her granddaughter she has very pale skin and very pale blonde hair, would you mind telling me what you mean by a little details perhaps a bit more saturation, the photo is a bit hard to work on, I've actually colourized it from black and white.

          I shall work more on the photo as I am not happy with it.


          many thank for your time and interest.


          regards


          helen

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          • #6
            Re: your critique on restoration please

            Helen,
            I looked real quick for a models face with similar lighting, but found none. So, here it is in writing. Again, you don't have to emphasize it much, just a little.
            Just look at some similar photos, look around the nose, cheek bones, mouth and chin area for the subtle shadows. Use a very low opacity (3%) brush in color burn blending mode and lightly adjust those areas to taste.

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            • #7
              Re: your critique on restoration please

              I believe you are almost there! The hair is maybe a little too perfect and cut out. I would like to see a few natural fly aways as in Bill's version. Very nice work though.

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              • #8
                Re: your critique on restoration please

                Helen,
                Looks good to me. I agree, try to retain the soft edge of the hair. It makes a big difference in the final proof. I like how Bill made the background more separate and added more contrast to her face. Nice job so far.

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                • #9
                  Re: your critique on restoration please

                  hi helen,

                  the middle one is the better of your two restores. the one on the right has lost some detail in the face and the rose in her cheeks. it's too flat. the hair is also better in the middle one. and, if you're going to change the background, like in the last one, you have to do a bit of blending with the foreground object, in this case, the hair. if you make it too much cut and dry of foreground ends and background starts, it just doesnt look like a photo; it will look pasted in. so, soften the edges of the foreground where it meets the background or even do a little bleeding of the two together, like with a light, small smudge.

                  and, like someone else said, it (the middle one) is a bit pale, but in looking at the original, there wasnt much tone variation to begin with, so the paleness becomes an option you can ignore or play with. myself, i tend to like to add just a bit more shadow or color variation for a bit more definition and depth of features, but there's also nothing wrong in leaving it like you did, too, since like i said, the original is lacking tone.

                  i think i can see where you got the notion that the background was originally green, but if you look at the bottom of the orignal, you'll see green there, too. so, i dont think green was the original color. based mostly on her hair color and skin, i'd say the background was probably a light brown or brown-red or even a red-brown, but mid to light in shade.

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                  • #10
                    Re: your critique on restoration please

                    Originally posted by TommyO View Post
                    Helen,
                    I looked real quick for a models face with similar lighting, but found none. So, here it is in writing. Again, you don't have to emphasize it much, just a little.
                    Just look at some similar photos, look around the nose, cheek bones, mouth and chin area for the subtle shadows. Use a very low opacity (3%) brush in color burn blending mode and lightly adjust those areas to taste.


                    Hi TommyO,

                    Many thanks for the extra tips much appreciated. I am glad I put the photo here for second opinion because I knew something didn't look right and I'm very happy with all the feedback, I will work again on the photo.

                    many thanks


                    regards

                    helen

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                    • #11
                      Re: your critique on restoration please

                      Originally posted by Just Jodi View Post
                      I believe you are almost there! The hair is maybe a little too perfect and cut out. I would like to see a few natural fly aways as in Bill's version. Very nice work though.
                      Ji Jodi,

                      Many thanks for your critiques and for your nice comment, it is very much appreciated, i agree the third version with new background look too cut out when i've looked at it again., this one is going to the bin lol. I will keep to the original background, I shall work again on the photo.

                      many thanks


                      regards


                      helen

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                      • #12
                        Re: your critique on restoration please

                        Originally posted by sonny7 View Post
                        Helen,
                        Looks good to me. I agree, try to retain the soft edge of the hair. It makes a big difference in the final proof. I like how Bill made the background more separate and added more contrast to her face. Nice job so far.
                        Hi Sonny7,

                        Many thanks for your critiques and for your nice comment on my work, it is very much appreciated, I too like Bill's version and his background is lovely, i don't think i can achieve this, so i will keep to the original background and work on the photo again.

                        many thanks


                        regards


                        helen

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                        • #13
                          Re: your critique on restoration please

                          Originally posted by Kraellin View Post
                          hi helen,

                          the middle one is the better of your two restores. the one on the right has lost some detail in the face and the rose in her cheeks. it's too flat. the hair is also better in the middle one. and, if you're going to change the background, like in the last one, you have to do a bit of blending with the foreground object, in this case, the hair. if you make it too much cut and dry of foreground ends and background starts, it just doesnt look like a photo; it will look pasted in. so, soften the edges of the foreground where it meets the background or even do a little bleeding of the two together, like with a light, small smudge.

                          and, like someone else said, it (the middle one) is a bit pale, but in looking at the original, there wasnt much tone variation to begin with, so the paleness becomes an option you can ignore or play with. myself, i tend to like to add just a bit more shadow or color variation for a bit more definition and depth of features, but there's also nothing wrong in leaving it like you did, too, since like i said, the original is lacking tone.

                          i think i can see where you got the notion that the background was originally green, but if you look at the bottom of the orignal, you'll see green there, too. so, i dont think green was the original color. based mostly on her hair color and skin, i'd say the background was probably a light brown or brown-red or even a red-brown, but mid to light in shade.
                          Hi Kraellin,

                          Many thanks for your critique and nice comments, it is very much appreciated. I too prefer the middle version, I want to keep to the original background as much as possible, I thank you also for spotting the real colour of the background, I don't know why I thought it was green, when one is not a Pro is easy to make mistakes lol, you guys are brilliant for spotty minor details. The photo wasn't an easy one to work with , i chose it as a challenge to myself, the original looked a bit washed out, i've actually desaturate the photo and colourized it from Black and white, mucked about with curves and levels, i did try to get some details back from the original, but it wasn't working, so i just desaturate and start from there.

                          i will work on the photo and will post it for more critiques.


                          many thanks


                          regards



                          helen

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                          • #14
                            Re: your critique on restoration please

                            hi helen,

                            you're welcome. i hope any of that helped.

                            i was trying some things on your image and found one thing i'd like to pass along regarding your middle image. make a color balance adjustment layer over all your other layers and set it on shadows. then, move the red slider up a few notches and notice the difference on your middle image. i think you might like it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: your critique on restoration please

                              Hi All,

                              I've had another go with this photo, nothing final just changed the background and put some colours in the lady's face, there are little bits need doing here and there, I would like to get the background all the same colour, there seems to be a line with different colour tone lighter and darker on her left shoulder, is there a way to get rid of it.

                              But I Would love your critiques please, many thanks.


                              regards





                              http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/...b992191d_o.jpg


                              helen

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