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    Got carried away taking wedding shots on a course in the UK and on this one used fill flash the wrong way around, is there a quick easy method to either neutralise or eliminate the shadow, i know i should have thought of this at the time i was taking the picture...i'm always telling everybody else this, nobody is perfect lol
    The image below is virtually out of the camera converted to .jpg its a D£ file so will stand a lot of punishment!
    regards,
    Gary

  • #2
    Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

    Aha!, think it may help if i upload the image....doh!
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    • #3
      Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

      Quick repair
      First i used curves to lighten the skin, mask and paint in the shadow and then new color layer to mach color(because color in shadow was different- more satureted)
      i repeted it 3 times to get the more accurate result.
      its all about dodging & burning.

      Cheers
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      • #4
        Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

        Good attempt Kapalika, thanks
        is there a tutorial somewhere on this, i'm still a PS dumbo when it comes to making shadows less obvious, i really should have nailed the shot first time...

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        • #5
          Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

          I don't know if this shot was a practice image by you or at a wedding, regardless, these kind of things will happen; especially at a face-paced wedding shoot One help would be to diffuse your flash unit a bit more; it helps soften shadows. Try this also: Make an empty layer, set the blending mode to Softlight, and with a soft, white brush at 5-10% opacity, paint over the shadow. The darker area will not be removed completely, but it will help. You then can clone at low opacity to remove the shadow. Just as important, I would work on her teeth, reducing the yellowing with a Hue/Sat layer with yellow and red selected and do some work on her wonderful eyes. Remove bad stray hairs too.
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            Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

            I used curves (taking a lot of samples from neighboring pixels) + d&b
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            • #7
              Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

              Originally posted by ktg222 View Post
              I don't know if this shot was a practice image by you or at a wedding, regardless, these kind of things will happen; especially at a face-paced wedding shoot One help would be to diffuse your flash unit a bit more; it helps soften shadows. Try this also: Make an empty layer, set the blending mode to Softlight, and with a soft, white brush at 5-10% opacity, paint over the shadow. The darker area will not be removed completely, but it will help. You then can clone at low opacity to remove the shadow. Just as important, I would work on her teeth, reducing the yellowing with a Hue/Sat layer with yellow and red selected and do some work on her wonderful eyes. Remove bad stray hairs too.
              __________________________________________________________

              It was a practice shoot on a two day course, frantic pace as there were 6 of us all snapping away trying to avoid each others shadows as well...
              Yep i'm leaving the teeth and hairs until i've mastered the shadow thing.
              Ideal would be a cls system where i can have off camera fill and you are right i should have lowered the power on the SB900 even further, rgards,
              Gary...

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              • #8
                Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                Originally posted by chillin View Post
                I used curves (taking a lot of samples from neighboring pixels) + d&b
                I like this one, looks natural to me, will try all methods now and see how it goes, regards,
                Gary

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                • #9
                  Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                  It's a nice shot and pose. A frantic pace is good training. A piece of tissue, gauss, thin white material taped to the flash head can work wonders. Using a rubber band and a white card fixed to the back of the flash head with the head at a 45 degree angle too.

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                  • #10
                    Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                    Just a lot of D&B then color over in new layer set to color blending with sampled color.

                    I then edited the rest. Mostly all D&B but im trying some new things out with color, thanks for the practice.

                    -Keven

                    Edit* continued to edit, removed mole and hairs. Also reduced the slightly dark line on the nose edge. All D&B, for those that think D&B is useless. Takes a long time but its worth the detail. I lastly attempted to fix the teeth (with liquify push left).
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                    Last edited by igot2pman; 03-16-2009, 01:53 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                      I give it a try if you don't mind!
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                      • #12
                        Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                        Very good Keven and Shung, my efforts to say the least were embarrassing, however will gove it another try after i return from the hospital this afternoon...
                        Hope you all had a good weekend,
                        Gary...

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                        • #13
                          Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                          Take your Raw file and take it back into PS, Blacks>0, Fill Light up, so that you almost neutralize the shadows, just overlay the image and mask out the bit you want.

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                          • #14
                            My attempt

                            Did try taking it back into raw,put blacks to zero, shadows low, filled with light and result was not to good in CS3, however, i did discover "the blending brush" in Painter which did a reasonable job so stuck with that and reverse cloning, lots of it....result is a bit dollish as i had to soften the other side of her face to somewhat blend in...
                            Guess i need to practice at this for when it happens again...sods law always prevails

                            My attempt:
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                            • #15
                              Re: How do i neutralise nose shadow?

                              I can do dodge and burn to lighted the shadow. But, what do people do at the edges of the shadow? How do you do a smooth transition?

                              I have this problem all the time. Help!

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