Sorry for the abrasive thread, I don't plan to stay here, I came across this board while looking for information on how to get the Vogue look, now I am not big on retouching, I like detail, realism and I try to get everything right on the shot. I'm not naive, I know retouching has been around since the first photographs were produced, but I don't like working unnecessarily, I cannot spend 2 days on a photograph, if you get it right on the shot, you don't have to.
I'm also a huge Madonna fan, and in the last few years a lot of outtakes have come out from her photoshoots were she frankly looks horrific. She has been mainly working with Steven Klein and Mert Alas and Marcus Piggot, and let me tell you, those guys are absolute frauds. They don't know how to shoot, period. You DO NOT ALLOW A SUBJECT TO WALK ON A SET LOOKING LIKE THIS:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ac6b4427...xb20o1_400.jpg
http://blowhan.tumblr.com/image/114262963658
http://41.media.tumblr.com/38a3316e2...b20o1_1280.jpg
bad makeup, badly fitted wig, dirty eyelashes, etc, etc, etc, the examples are all over the net and they are ungodly.
The saddest part is that, she truly does not look this way in real life, they make her look bad because they don't care, the poor retoucher will fix it later. By my calculation it would take almost an ENTIRE WEEK just to reconstruct the hairline and eliminate all the frizzy hair covering her face, and redoing her makeup and ironing her dress to get the picture to printing stage, which is what they did with her spread of w magazine 2009 which is where the pictures come from.
It's sad really, this guys are total frauds, someone else does the true work, they take the credit because they are "cool" meanwhile more talented artists may never get the chance because they are not cool people if you know what I mean.
I'm also a huge Madonna fan, and in the last few years a lot of outtakes have come out from her photoshoots were she frankly looks horrific. She has been mainly working with Steven Klein and Mert Alas and Marcus Piggot, and let me tell you, those guys are absolute frauds. They don't know how to shoot, period. You DO NOT ALLOW A SUBJECT TO WALK ON A SET LOOKING LIKE THIS:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ac6b4427...xb20o1_400.jpg
http://blowhan.tumblr.com/image/114262963658
http://41.media.tumblr.com/38a3316e2...b20o1_1280.jpg
bad makeup, badly fitted wig, dirty eyelashes, etc, etc, etc, the examples are all over the net and they are ungodly.
The saddest part is that, she truly does not look this way in real life, they make her look bad because they don't care, the poor retoucher will fix it later. By my calculation it would take almost an ENTIRE WEEK just to reconstruct the hairline and eliminate all the frizzy hair covering her face, and redoing her makeup and ironing her dress to get the picture to printing stage, which is what they did with her spread of w magazine 2009 which is where the pictures come from.
It's sad really, this guys are total frauds, someone else does the true work, they take the credit because they are "cool" meanwhile more talented artists may never get the chance because they are not cool people if you know what I mean.
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